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Old 09-08-2017, 10:29 AM   #21
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I have a DT360 service / rebuild manual but its in paper format... it appears Navistar didnt start making electronic copies until 1995 or later.
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:33 AM   #22
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No way...international engines are international engines and detroit engines are detroit engines. That's like saying allison transmissions are built by chevy. They are installed at the international factory...not made.
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:36 AM   #23
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...so ya...if you want detroit go look in the detroit forum here...
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:48 AM   #24
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are you saying that the DT360 and 466 are detroit? i always thought DT360 meant Diesel-turbo 360 cubic inch.. and DTA360 was Diesel-Turbo-Aftercooled 360 cubic inch..
I dont think DT means DeTroit.. I did however think that detroit OEM'd some engines from navistar like ford did..
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:54 AM   #25
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are you saying that the DT360 and 466 are detroit? i always thought DT360 meant Diesel-turbo 360 cubic inch.. and DTA360 was Diesel-Turbo-Aftercooled 360 cubic inch..
I dont think DT means DeTroit.. I did however think that detroit OEM'd some engines from navistar like ford did..
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Apparently we are mistaken Christopher. Rock has spoken.

Do you want to call International and let them know or should I??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar_DT_engine

https://itstillruns.com/specificatio...e-7702079.html
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:57 AM   #26
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https://www.barringtondieselclub.co....spec-sheet.pdf

sure looks like a DT-466E to me.....
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:16 AM   #27
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https://www.barringtondieselclub.co....spec-sheet.pdf

sure looks like a DT-466E to me.....
As I understand it, International did oem the mechanicals for the series 40.

The post above was calling the DT360 a Detroit.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:50 AM   #28
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Maybe I am mistaken...but I'm pretty sure Detroit has a 466. Anyways, go to the same site as the computer program link that I put up. If you can get manuals and programming for free that's where it will be. Good luck.
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Old 09-09-2017, 05:13 AM   #29
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Rock you can read about the series 40, it was an OEM, just like the power strokes in fords were not Ford motors but navistar for many years.

This type thing is done all the time.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:03 PM   #30
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Our left front turn signal with the arrow, left rear turn signal and left rear running light is out. I down loaded the PDF but I'm not sure where to start or what went wrong. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:48 PM   #31
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Thank You for the valuable info! Does oncommand work for looking up part nums for my 1998 4700 w/T444E and/or my 1990 4800 w/ DT 466? If so, where were you able to get it? Thanks again.
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Old 05-28-2018, 02:30 PM   #32
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great. glad I ran across this. my bus is a 2004 that was built in 2003 wonder if this works for the 2004. I think they are the same engine as they were discontinued in 2004. ???
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:22 PM   #33
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great. glad I ran across this. my bus is a 2004 that was built in 2003 wonder if this works for the 2004. I think they are the same engine as they were discontinued in 2004. ???
yeah totally the same.. technicall I think navistar Disco'd it after 03 but many 04 busses still got it, so you are fine using the later model literature..

there were 3 iterations of the 444E.

94-96 - use a 3 box computer system. (shared with ford)

97-99.5 - diamond logic computers.. green coolant, single shot injectors

99.5 - end - updated for red coolant, better injector cups, split shot injection system, internal J1939 for integrating to allison electronic transmissions..

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Old 05-28-2018, 05:27 PM   #34
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yeah totally the same.. technicall I think navistar Disco'd it after 03 but many 04 busses still got it, so you are fine using the later model literature..

there were 3 iterations of the 444E.

94-96 - use a 3 box computer system. (shared with ford)

97-99.5 - diamond logic computers.. green coolant, single shot injectors

99.5 - end - updated for red coolant, better injector cups, split shot injection system, internal J1939 for integrating to allison electronic transmissions..

-Christopher
Thanks Christopher
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:01 PM   #35
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You folks rock. This will demystify the engine compartment for me considerably.

I wonder if my bluetooth J1708 adapter will work with their software.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:42 AM   #36
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Is this manual still available?

Doesn’t seem to be an active link for me. Am I missing something?
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:44 AM   #37
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Is the link still available?
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:41 PM   #38
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I think you're missing something. Works for me.

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Old 12-14-2018, 04:54 PM   #39
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works for me too... is there possibly a post count restriction for clicking links until a user has X number of posts on the forum?
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:03 AM   #40
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That’s weird. It’s workig now after you posted it now. Thank u so much!!!
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