Can you tell transmission type from Vin?

[MambaJack]

More Powers, wondering if you would be willing to look up the specs on my transmission/motor too 1HVBBAAP8VH472406

Thanks,
dave

[More Power]

It looks like vh472406 is a 1997 international 3800 4x2 bus with a dt466 heui engine rated at 190 hp @ 2300 rpm's and 485 lb-ft torque at 1500 rpm's. Governed speed is 2500 rpm's. The bus was originally built with an allison AT454 4-spd trans including tc-290 torque converter and transmission oil filter (but without retarder or pto gear).

[X2Kawa]

Do you have access to entire build sheets? That would be a ton of help.

[More Power]

What's the vin?

[X2Kawa]

4drbraan64b967751

[o1marc]

A VIN will usually not have tranny info on it. A call to the manufacturer with the VIN will help them tell you what they put in it.

[More Power]

4B967751 was built with an Allison MD-3060 close ratio, 5-speed; with overdrive, includes Allison WT electronic Control System without pto gear or retarder.

[MambaJack]

hi More.

Looking at getting another bus and wondering if you can find any specs on this one, in particular transmission. 1HVBBAP4WH557650

Thanks,
dave

[Sleddgracer]

More Power, would you be able to tell me about motor and transmission? - 1BAAJCPH81F093602

[Round_boy]

Originally Posted by More Power

What's your VIN? I know a guy.

the VIN is 1HVBBABP04H596005 I need to know what transmission is in it (its a 2004 btw

[More Power]

4h596005 was built with an allison 2000 series wide ratio 5 speed with overdrive

[Oscar1]

Originally Posted by More Power

4h596005 was built with an allison 2000 series wide ratio 5 speed with overdrive

Well holy crap aren't you ever the helpful guy

[Diverdude0075]

Originally Posted by More Power

What's your VIN? I know a guy.

This is two years old but worth a shot I figure. Can you decode my VIN please? I would like to know tranny as well.


1HVBBABM6XH205515


Thanks!
Josh

[More Power]

Xh205515 - international 3800 4x2 bus. Electronic t444 190 hp 485 tq, was built with Allison at/545 4-speed

[CHEESE_WAGON]

NOTE: "BUILT with". Still a good idea to verify what is actually IN the bus visually. There is the remote possibility that someone might have an MT643 swap done and are later forced to sell, but neglect to mention it because they need money badly or just forget for other reasons. And mistakes do happen in record-keeping from time to time.

Case in point, I once owned a GMC Safari that developed an oil pressure problem at low speed. I parked it and saved for months to get the engine replaced. Bought a good used engine and trans take-out package from a reputable seller on eBay. Mechanic screwed me and put my replacement in his full-size pickup that had more or less the same package, doctoring my existing engine enough that he thought it would fool me, but the 20 psi at idle told the tale -- all he did was clean / replace the oil pump screen and maybe put an oil pump in it.

Of course, the engine block's serial number didn't jive with the donor vehicle my replacement had been sourced from. But I never did prove what it came from, because the serial number didn't register with any GM auto or truck application.

Thus, it's always good to verify visually. Otherwise, you never truly know. It may walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, but that doesn't always mean it's a duck.

[Jolly Roger bus 223]

i would like to jump in for a new member here?
can you tell rear axle ratio from VIN?
they PMed me there VIN but it is only 16 characters and everything i can find requires 17 so.
i was trying before i sent his particular stuff to my ford mechanic son.
will have to find his thread to remember exactly what but it is a ford.

[Diverdude0075]

Originally Posted by More Power

Xh205515 - international 3800 4x2 bus. Electronic t444 190 hp 485 tq, was built with Allison at/545 4-speed

Thank you! It shows a last service by Lubbock school district Dec of ‘19 so I’m thinking it hasn’t been swapped. Still gonna verify. She has nearly 300k and 19k hours on her but starts right up and drives beautifully! So far all I’ve found is a small oil leak from the front.

[Diverdude0075]

Originally Posted by CHEESE_WAGON

NOTE: "BUILT with". Still a good idea to verify what is actually IN the bus visually. There is the remote possibility that someone might have an MT643 swap done and are later forced to sell, but neglect to mention it because they need money badly or just forget for other reasons. And mistakes do happen in record-keeping from time to time.

Case in point, I once owned a GMC Safari that developed an oil pressure problem at low speed. I parked it and saved for months to get the engine replaced. Bought a good used engine and trans take-out package from a reputable seller on eBay. Mechanic screwed me and put my replacement in his full-size pickup that had more or less the same package, doctoring my existing engine enough that he thought it would fool me, but the 20 psi at idle told the tale -- all he did was clean / replace the oil pump screen and maybe put an oil pump in it.

Of course, the engine block's serial number didn't jive with the donor vehicle my replacement had been sourced from. But I never did prove what it came from, because the serial number didn't register with any GM auto or truck application.

Thus, it's always good to verify visually. Otherwise, you never truly know. It may walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, but that doesn't always mean it's a duck.

I don’t think it’s been swapped unfortunately but I will still verify the AT545. It was still in service as of last Dec. Also, the oil leak from the front of the engine looks like it’s been collecting on the tranny for years.

I haven’t found the tranny placard yet due to all the crusted oil! It’s high on my to do list. Keeping my eye out for a T444E equipped 643 or 2000 to use as a donor although I may just decide to live with the slowness...

That sucks about your GMC. I’d be upset!

[Jolly Roger bus 223]

Originally Posted by CHEESE_WAGON

NOTE: "BUILT with". Still a good idea to verify what is actually IN the bus visually. There is the remote possibility that someone might have an MT643 swap done and are later forced to sell, but neglect to mention it because they need money badly or just forget for other reasons. And mistakes do happen in record-keeping from time to time.

Case in point, I once owned a GMC Safari that developed an oil pressure problem at low speed. I parked it and saved for months to get the engine replaced. Bought a good used engine and trans take-out package from a reputable seller on eBay. Mechanic screwed me and put my replacement in his full-size pickup that had more or less the same package, doctoring my existing engine enough that he thought it would fool me, but the 20 psi at idle told the tale -- all he did was clean / replace the oil pump screen and maybe put an oil pump in it.

Of course, the engine block's serial number didn't jive with the donor vehicle my replacement had been sourced from. But I never did prove what it came from, because the serial number didn't register with any GM auto or truck application.

Thus, it's always good to verify visually. Otherwise, you never truly know. It may walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, but that doesn't always mean it's a duck.

dang cheesewagon it sounds you have had many an issue with vehicles in your life.
i am sorry and wish you luck moving forward.
i was fortunate enough to grow up in a farming/ranching community in texas so almost as soon as you could walk you had boots jeans and were working on something.
STILL ENJOY your insight her CW.
not to derail the thread.
back on point the original OP was about VIN for tranny the new thread is looking for rear end swap options from drum to brake and asked for his VIN to try to verify before options.

[CHEESE_WAGON]

Originally Posted by Jolly Roger bus 223

back on point the original OP was about VIN for tranny the new thread is looking for rear end swap options from drum to brake and asked for his VIN to try to verify before options.

As frame rail spacing is a pretty standardized 34" on commercial truck chassis, it occurs to me that there are plenty of salvage differentials of various ratios in heavy truck / RV salvage yards.

If OP's bus is air brake, a semi tractor differential should be a pretty easy swap. Just remember you might want to get the rearmost axle on a tandem, the forward drive will have a second on its rear for pass-through. Some have an air-controlled locker, which would be good to retain its functionality by scavenging the control system (usually a toggle switch controlling an air solenoid).

But in my time driving OTR, I've driven rigs that had 2.64s, 2.94s, 3.08s, 3.23s, 3.42s, 3.73s, and 3.93s. I've also seen a few 4.11s, 4.33s, etc.

Also could be a good opportunity to upgrade to air ride on the drive axle if not already equipped. Might be cheaper than re-gearing your existing unit.

I will add a bit here. A cutaway van style chassis VIN can likely be ferreted out to such details as the trans and diff ratio through the appropriate dealer (GM, Ford, etc.) I have had some luck getting such info from dealers with the VINs for REs as well, so you might try that...