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10-05-2020, 06:09 PM
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#41
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Traveling
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,302
Year: None
Coachwork: None
Chassis: None
Engine: None
Rated Cap: None
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Axle ratio should be on a badge above the windshield.
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Not all of them. Actually, I've not seen one yet that the body tag / decal gave that info. I believe there is a tag somewhere on the housing that shows the 'born-with' ratio (irrelevant once re-geared)
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10-05-2020, 06:27 PM
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#42
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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his original thread is up on the board now cause i revived it and it is rear axle swap ford 4 window shorty.
i offered help for interchange because my son works at a ford dealership as a mechanic and can have them pull specs up.
and thats how i was going about donor vehicles and gearing in rear ends.
in a PM with them they were talking 3.1 or 3.7 rear gear but didnt say towing anything or just want road speed
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10-05-2020, 06:35 PM
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#43
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 2,973
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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if you know how to clean off the grime without destroying them the tags are there and if older stuff then clean it enough you find the casing stamps. that is the tell all?
sorry on older stuff.
if your tags or missing on rear end transmissiom motor? then research the location and find the casting stamps of what you think you have
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10-05-2020, 06:49 PM
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#44
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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those tags are a pain... I had a whole bunch of numbers on the Differential in my Superior.. still no one could find anythin from them.. its pre 1981 so the VIN was non standard.. I finally pulled the 3rd member out and took it to weller truck parts where a bunch of old guys looked at it and had the books out and were searching stuff on the computers.... then one other guy walks up from the back says "Oh thats an RA-39 rockwell out of a International Loadstar.. what do you need done to it?"
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10-05-2020, 06:59 PM
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#45
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Traveling
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,302
Year: None
Coachwork: None
Chassis: None
Engine: None
Rated Cap: None
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
those tags are a pain... I had a whole bunch of numbers on the Differential in my Superior.. still no one could find anythin from them.. its pre 1981 so the VIN was non standard.. I finally pulled the 3rd member out and took it to weller truck parts where a bunch of old guys looked at it and had the books out and were searching stuff on the computers.... then one other guy walks up from the back says "Oh thats an RA-39 rockwell out of a International Loadstar.. what do you need done to it?"
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Just goes to show, there are times when books and decoders are useless.
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10-22-2020, 06:47 PM
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#46
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 7
Year: 2000
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
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More Power, you are amazing! Thank you for helping out with all those VIN inquiries!
If you get a chance, my son and I would love to get the details on our 2000 Bluebird (International 3800 T444E). We think the transmission is an Allison 2300, but can't find anything to confirm that. The VIN is 1HVBBABN7YH344417.
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10-23-2020, 07:52 AM
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#47
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gathman
More Power, you are amazing! Thank you for helping out with all those VIN inquiries!
If you get a chance, my son and I would love to get the details on our 2000 Bluebird (International 3800 T444E). We think the transmission is an Allison 2300, but can't find anything to confirm that. The VIN is 1HVBBABN7YH344417.
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1HVBBABN7YH344417 Was built with an Allison at-545 4-speed. Includes tc-290 torque converter & trans oil filter. Does not include retarder or pto gear.
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10-24-2020, 01:09 PM
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#48
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 58
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: 7.3 International
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Hey More Power could you do mine please?
1HVBBABM51H366560
Your awesome btw
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10-24-2020, 02:35 PM
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#49
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Wake Forest NC
Posts: 508
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Vista 3600
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 24000 lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
Axle ratio should be on a badge above the windshield.
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Yeah this is the quote of the year
They SHOULD BE
sadly they never seem to be
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10-28-2020, 05:11 PM
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#50
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Are
Hey More Power could you do mine please?
1HVBBABM51H366560
Your awesome btw
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1HVBBABM51H366560 Is exactly the same as the last one (it’s a common configuration for international buses). Allison at-545 4-speed includes tc-290 torque converter and trans, without retarder or pto gear.
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10-29-2020, 10:40 AM
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#51
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 58
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: 7.3 International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by More Power
1HVBBABM51H366560 Is exactly the same as the last one (it’s a common configuration for international buses). Allison at-545 4-speed includes tc-290 torque converter and trans, without retarder or pto gear.
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Thank you More Power!!
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02-16-2021, 09:36 PM
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#52
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 1
Year: 1993
Engine: DT466
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More Power could you decode my vin? I’m getting a lot of weird returns using any of the free decoders online. I was told my bus has a DT466 with an Allison trans. Most of the decoders are saying it has a Cummins engine which I doubt but I’m really curious which trans is in it. I haven’t driven it home yet but I have to cross over a mountain and want to know if it’s going to be a struggle. Thank you.
VIN: 4DRGSCLN8PA056852
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02-16-2021, 10:31 PM
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#53
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Traveling
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,302
Year: None
Coachwork: None
Chassis: None
Engine: None
Rated Cap: None
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jiwanowski
More Power could you decode my vin? I’m getting a lot of weird returns using any of the free decoders online. I was told my bus has a DT466 with an Allison trans. Most of the decoders are saying it has a Cummins engine which I doubt but I’m really curious which trans is in it. I haven’t driven it home yet but I have to cross over a mountain and want to know if it’s going to be a struggle. Thank you.
VIN: 4DRGSCLN8PA056852
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A picture of the engine would be far more helpful in figuring this out. As you have seen, the decoders aren't necessarily accurate. Navistar engines are typically painted a blue / blue-green color, Cummins engines are often painted tan, black or in some cases red. I've seen a few that were painted green on gensets and such. Anyway, the point is that the only way to positively identify your engine is to see it, which in this case means uploading a photo, which you will be able to do after 5 posts. Alternately, a Navistar dealer may be able to tell you from the VIN.
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01-11-2022, 09:10 AM
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#54
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 2
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More Power
I am trying to buy a bus, and the owner is hundreds of miles away, and can't send me pics of the tranny, or motor. The vin number is not adding up regardless of which source I use. Maybe your guy will have better luck? I know it's an old thread, hopefully you'll get this.
1HVBBNEM9MH337988
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01-11-2022, 09:14 AM
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#55
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: East TN
Posts: 300
Year: 1999
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
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Call Dealer
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyIQisLow
More Power
I am trying to buy a bus, and the owner is hundreds of miles away, and can't send me pics of the tranny, or motor. The vin number is not adding up regardless of which source I use. Maybe your guy will have better luck? I know it's an old thread, hopefully you'll get this.
1HVBBNEM9MH337988
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You could also call the international dealer with your VIN and they will give a lot more info than just which transmission it has.
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01-11-2022, 12:00 PM
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#56
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Almost There
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Washington State
Posts: 82
Year: 2001
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtran
Engine: DT466E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyIQisLow
More Power
I am trying to buy a bus, and the owner is hundreds of miles away, and can't send me pics of the tranny, or motor. The vin number is not adding up regardless of which source I use. Maybe your guy will have better luck? I know it's an old thread, hopefully you'll get this.
1HVBBNEM9MH337988
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If you are going to tow or do highway driving, make sure you get a good drivetrain or you will regret building it out.
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01-11-2022, 01:12 PM
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#57
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 2
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That's why I am trying to figure this out. The Dt, or the Cta are the only motors, and the mt643, or md3060 are the only transmission I am considering (unless I could find a manual, that would be ideal, but almost non existent.)We are definitely going to tow lots, while boondocking, in as deep of snow as we can find. That's what we do for fun. Thanks for the replies so far.
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01-11-2022, 05:20 PM
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#58
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,324
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1700
Engine: 345 international V-8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyIQisLow
That's why I am trying to figure this out. The Dt, or the Cta are the only motors, and the mt643, or md3060 are the only transmission I am considering (unless I could find a manual, that would be ideal, but almost non existent.)We are definitely going to tow lots, while boondocking, in as deep of snow as we can find. That's what we do for fun. Thanks for the replies so far.
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There is a tag on the side of the trans that will include model number.
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01-14-2022, 10:16 AM
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#59
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 36
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1HVBBNEM9MH337988 Was built with an Allison AT-545 trans.
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01-14-2022, 02:29 PM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,758
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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tranny swap thats what ive done on 2 of my busses
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