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Old 04-28-2021, 09:22 AM   #61
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Do you know why these bolts spun? Over-torqued (maybe an error in the books)?
I donít think so, I was talking them to 16 foot pounds

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Old 04-28-2021, 12:16 PM   #62
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Well bad news guys, three bolts in the timing cover that holds the oil pump wouldnít tighten down, they spun, two of them are in the rear cover and one of them are in the front.



So even if I wanted to use Heli coils I would have to disassemble the timing covers, get another timing cover gasket kit and another upper idler bolt.



I was close to getting it back together but it looks like Iím going to have to pull everything back apart.
Damn! That's awful!

Howcome you need a whole new set? Aren't they rubber gaskets?
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:17 PM   #63
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Damn! That's awful!

Howcome you need a whole new set? Aren't they rubber gaskets?
I think they get a coating of sealant along with the gaskets.

I sure hate these DT timing covers.

On one of the YouTube videos of this job the guy had a tough time finding a good rear timing cover and ended up re-using his old one with several heli-coils. Or something like that.

Man I sure hate to hear about this turn of events... it really looked like you were on the home stretch... Keep up the good fight you'll have this licked!
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:57 PM   #64
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Back to square one.

Iím thinking of biting the bullet and just getting new front covers. Iím afraid if I Heli coil those holes, some of the others donít look the best.

I really donít want to keep pulling this thing apart. Especially if itís a possibility that itís warped.
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:15 PM   #65
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Use timeserts. ++ TIME-SERT Official Threaded inserts for stripped threads, blown out sparkplugs, I have been using them for decades. Just redo all the holes and put it back together. They are actually better than original holes. Just follow the instructions that come with the kit.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:57 AM   #66
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2nd the timeserts.

A new cover will still have alloy threads, which is never a good idea when using a steel bolt.

Timeserts will give you steel threads on steel threads, which should render the cover a more permanent repair.

That warpage is a non-issue in my experience, they all seem to be warped slightly due to design/material. The bolts should pull it straight. But I also coat the gasket with a film of the right stuff before installing it, to ensure there are no leaks, and I put a nice blob between all gasket joints.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:22 PM   #67
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Thanks guys, I went with your suggestions. I ordered time-serts and honestly I wish I knew about these things before. They seem better than a Heli coil, being they are a solid piece.

I waiting on another set of gaskets to come in to put it back together for the second time. I hope I have it right this time.
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Old 05-01-2021, 08:28 PM   #68
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I want to commend you. You are doing very nice work. I had an atheist tell me that cleanliness is next to godliness one time. Did you do all the holes? I would. That piece will be better than a new one.
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Nice work! Crossing my fingers that this time will be the one!

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Old 05-01-2021, 08:38 PM   #70
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I want to commend you. You are doing very nice work. I had an atheist tell me that cleanliness is next to godliness one time. Did you do all the holes? I would. That piece will be better than a new one.

Thanks, I did all of them except the four in the bottom where the oil pan bolts to it. It seems like it would be a little thin to drill those out. Those four seem pretty good.

Also didnít do the two that hold the High pressure oil pump to the timing cover, one of them doesnít seem to have enough material around it to drill it out, or Iím just scared to do it.

Worst case scenario I can drill the others out when itís installed if I have an issue. I used red loctite on installing them.
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Well guys the cover is back on for a second time. Had to wait on the second set of gaskets to come in and upper idler bolt, I also replaced the 9 inner timing cover bolts for the heck of it.

The oil pump is on as well. The Time-sertís worked! Iíll start to get the rest back together in the evenings after work.

I guessed at the alternator bracket and torqued it to 40 pounds, the reason, I know the compressor bolts are torqued to 46, so I thought I would take them close to those. Hope thatís not too tight. They are bolts with nuts, so they arenít threaded into the cover itself.

Been pretty tired lately so moving slower than I would like to be. But hey thanks guys for the tips to use time serts and thanks Booyah for the info on the covers being imperfect.
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Old 05-17-2021, 10:21 AM   #72
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Where did you get your new radiator from? Need to replace mine in my short bus and am having a hard time finding one.
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Old 05-17-2021, 11:19 AM   #73
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Where did you get your new radiator from? Need to replace mine in my short bus and am having a hard time finding one.
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