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04-07-2022, 10:05 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unpluggedone
Really no substitute for the torque wrench after you’ve got them close with the torque multiplier.
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I agree, that's the right way to do it. Just not sure it makes sense for me to invest in one at this point in my life.
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04-07-2022, 10:28 AM
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#22
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tejon7
This conversation made me start wondering, so I headed straight over to Youtube and found this nifty idea:
If you can use your friend's torque wrench to get them correct once, can you then use the torque multiplier for any future work like the video says?
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I'll definitely try that.
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04-07-2022, 02:35 PM
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#23
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2020
Posts: 46
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I use an impact wrench to remove lug nuts. Makes life easier. I torque the lug nuts by hand with a 3/4 inch drive torque wrench.
And I use blocks to support the bus while the wheel(s) is/are removed.
If I am going to be working under the bus while the wheels are off I use 3 points of support. If one let's go I still have a chance to escape........
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04-07-2022, 02:50 PM
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#24
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnthebusboy
I use an impact wrench to remove lug nuts. Makes life easier. I torque the lug nuts by hand with a 3/4 inch drive torque wrench.
And I use blocks to support the bus while the wheel(s) is/are removed.
If I am going to be working under the bus while the wheels are off I use 3 points of support. If one let's go I still have a chance to escape........
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Checking the brakes or changing the tires are the only times I'd be doing work requiring the wheels to be off. In either case I won't need to get under it but I agree with your take on it. If my king pins need to be done I know of a place that is known for doing that job well and for a reasonable price.
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04-07-2022, 03:38 PM
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#25
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Alabama
Posts: 295
Year: 1996
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT 466 Mech. Spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 34
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Here is a link to a unit on a 1999 Southwind motorhome--
http://1999southwind.com/DOWNLOAD/Bo...r%20Manual.pdf
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04-07-2022, 04:27 PM
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#26
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PorchDog
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Thanks PorchDog, that's a great resource. I can't send a thanks from my phone but I really appreciate that you provided that.
Thanks.
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04-07-2022, 04:32 PM
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#27
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Alabama
Posts: 295
Year: 1996
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT 466 Mech. Spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 34
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You are welcome. I have that same system on my 1996 BlueBird.
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05-11-2022, 09:35 PM
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#28
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Thought I'd add a post to this thread because I was under the bus to tighten the exhaust downpipe to the muffler
I figured as long as I was down there I'd get a few pictures of brake stuff.
I found the ABS distribution unit so thought I'd get a shot of it for this thread.
I also wanted a few pics of the e-brake.
Shots of the shoes, they're engaged of course.
I've been wondering if the e-brake is serviceable without removing the driveshaft and it appears it is. Looks like that drum will clear the u-joint after removal of the bolts. That's a load off my mind. It means I can service the e-brake anytime pretty easily - as long as I chock the wheels. It'd suck to end up being a wheel chock.
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05-12-2022, 06:23 AM
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#29
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: East TN
Posts: 301
Year: 1999
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
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I was nearly a wheel chock.
Around a year ago I was doing a transmission upgrade and popped out the driveshaft. This was on my '99 International BB with the 7.3. The moment it popped out the bus started roll and I immediately realized I forgot to chalk the tires!!
Luckily my driveway was only slightly angled away from the house so it started to roll slowly and I had time to think. I considered letting it roll over me but the front axle is so low to the ground that would have most likely ended in disaster.
The bus started picking up speed! I moved the fastest I have moved in quite some time and got out of there. I was under and kind of behind the entrance stairs so had no direct egress option. I had to inch worm down faster than the bus was moving and then roll/slide out!
I watched the bus, while thankful to still be unscathed, roll into our cul-d-sac, powerless to do anything. Miraculously, it missed every car, avoided the fire hydrant, hit the opposite curb and stopped! Whew!
I got really lucky. Then I spent the next 30 minutes pushing and pulling it back into the driveway with my F350. The tires were well chalked after that!
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05-12-2022, 08:21 AM
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#30
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diverdude0075
Around a year ago I was doing a transmission upgrade and popped out the driveshaft. This was on my '99 International BB with the 7.3. The moment it popped out the bus started roll and I immediately realized I forgot to chalk the tires!!
Luckily my driveway was only slightly angled away from the house so it started to roll slowly and I had time to think. I considered letting it roll over me but the front axle is so low to the ground that would have most likely ended in disaster.
The bus started picking up speed! I moved the fastest I have moved in quite some time and got out of there. I was under and kind of behind the entrance stairs so had no direct egress option. I had to inch worm down faster than the bus was moving and then roll/slide out!
I watched the bus, while thankful to still be unscathed, roll into our cul-d-sac, powerless to do anything. Miraculously, it missed every car, avoided the fire hydrant, hit the opposite curb and stopped! Whew!
I got really lucky. Then I spent the next 30 minutes pushing and pulling it back into the driveway with my F350. The tires were well chalked after that!
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Yep, there are certainly ramifications for going brain dead when working on a vehicle that weighs 15 to 20k lbs. Before I head out for real I'd like to get properly sized chocks cause a vehicle with 22" wheels will go right over a chock for cars - ask me how I know.
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05-12-2022, 12:08 PM
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#31
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toledo OH
Posts: 781
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP-EF
Engine: Cat C7 + Allison 3000PTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldyeller
Yep, there are certainly ramifications for going brain dead when working on a vehicle that weighs 15 to 20k lbs. Before I head out for real I'd like to get properly sized chocks cause a vehicle with 22" wheels will go right over a chock for cars - ask me how I know.
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Harbor freight has rubber wheel chocks, that was one of the first things I bought when I almost bought a bus in 2019. Now they stay with my bus and get used any time I park it long term!
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05-12-2022, 12:45 PM
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#32
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbsoundman
Harbor freight has rubber wheel chocks, that was one of the first things I bought when I almost bought a bus in 2019. Now they stay with my bus and get used any time I park it long term!
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I have 6 or 8 of those which I use with various trailers and vehicles. Problem is when you're talking about a 22" wheel/ tire you can go right over one of those and barely notice. I'd be reluctant to trust those with my life when used with a bus or heavy truck. In conjunction with a parking brake OK, by themselves on a slope I don't know. Be interesting to hear others' opinion about that because my experience isn't extensive.
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05-12-2022, 12:47 PM
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#33
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Toledo OH
Posts: 781
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP-EF
Engine: Cat C7 + Allison 3000PTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldyeller
I have 6 or 8 of those which I use with various trailers and vehicles. Problem is when you're talking about a 22" wheel/ tire you can go right over one of those and barely notice. I'd be reluctant to trust those with my life when used with a bus or heavy truck. In conjunction with a parking brake OK, by themselves on a slope I don't know. Be interesting to hear others' opinion about that because my experience isn't extensive.
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That is a good point, I know for a fact I can roll over one on soft ground, but if I’m on pavement I definitely notice it’s there. I could probably apply enough throttle to go over it but I would trust it to hold the bus standing still. I’d probably add more chocks if I was jacking it up.
Keep in mind I live in the flatlands, if I lived in hill country I’d definitely look for 3 or 4 ways to immobilize the bus if I were parking on an incline and especially if I planned to work on it!
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05-12-2022, 12:55 PM
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#34
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Communist State of New Jersey
Posts: 964
Year: 2004
Coachwork: IC
Chassis: CE200
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 27,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbsoundman
That is a good point, I know for a fact I can roll over one on soft ground, but if I’m on pavement I definitely notice it’s there. I could probably apply enough throttle to go over it but I would trust it to hold the bus standing still. I’d probably add more chocks if I was jacking it up.
Keep in mind I live in the flatlands, if I lived in hill country I’d definitely look for 3 or 4 ways to immobilize the bus if I were parking on an incline and especially if I planned to work on it!
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Yea, I was thinking about slopes. I backed over one this spring on packed gravel. After I went over it I realized what I'd done but it got me to wondering about it. A big vehicle gets away from you and mayhem will likely ensue
On my sloped driveway I have 3 of those in use plus the parking brake. If, for whatever reason, it got loose it would go right through my neighbor's hedge and into his new addition.
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