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Old 05-19-2022, 11:00 AM   #1
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how the bleep attach TC at545?

Hi all,


I got a low milage 545 replacement cheap, and just need to get the Blunderbuss to the land I bought here in Mtn View AR.


I thought that I'd read that the TC is carefully seated in the transmission, it all gets bolted to the engine, and via black magic one can attach the TC to the plate through the starter hole. Well, ahem, I just don't see it. I did all that, (didn't drop the starter!) And I can't see much of the TC, plate through starter hole, much less get nuts and wrenches in there.

I've searched and learned how to upgrade the transmission (which I'll do when time isn't pressing), but failed to find info on reinstalling a 545. I'm sure I missed it. Anyway, I've got jacks and a structure/ comealong in the cab so it's not a big deal to drop out the tranny again, but I'm in need of the proper sequence to reinstall.


Thanks in advance. If anyone travels through Mtn Viewing me up. Well get some chow.



Kind regards,


Doug

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Old 05-19-2022, 01:35 PM   #2
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on my DT360 there's an access hole on the Forward side of the flywheel housing. near the Top on the driver side.. this hole faces the front of the bus..I had to open the doghouse, and remove a fuel line to access the hole.. its through that hole you can get to the flywheel bolts (or nuts as my converter has studs..).. I didnt take the starter down.
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Old 05-19-2022, 10:02 PM   #3
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I'll take a look tomorrow tho I should have seen it if it's there. But I've been busy so who know what I missed. Thanks Kid. I'll report on what I find.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:07 AM   #4
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here is an allison manual with some install tips.

http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manua...nsmissions.pdf
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:40 AM   #5
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Great info and I found the plate coving the hole. Clearly I'm not a diesel mechanic.



Y'all are great. I'll make a link to the Allison manual.



Thanks Kid and Turf.
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:11 AM   #6
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here is an allison manual with some install tips.

http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manua...nsmissions.pdf
That's a neat manual, so neat in fact that I had to download it even though I don't have an AT545.

I'll have to see if they have on for the 2000 series.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:22 PM   #7
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That's a neat manual, so neat in fact that I had to download it even though I don't have an AT545.

I'll have to see if they have on for the 2000 series.

they do, I have it if you need it.. I think its too big to attach here its 185 megs
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:25 PM   #8
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they do, I have it if you need it.. I think its too big to attach here its 185 megs
If it's for the 2000 I'd love to have it.

But before you try to get it to me let's make sure I don't have what you have.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:52 PM   #9
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1000-2000 service manual. its a 1000 and 2000 4th gen (2006+) controls and valve body troubleshooting manual. ive used it lots for deciphering data I get from allison DOC and such
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Old 05-21-2022, 02:31 PM   #10
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1000-2000 service manual. its a 1000 and 2000 4th gen (2006+) controls and valve body troubleshooting manual. ive used it lots for deciphering data I get from allison DOC and such
Below is what I have in my Allison folder by name. I don't think I have an actual service manual.
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Old 05-21-2022, 04:24 PM   #11
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I'm usually a Service manual guy. Still remember the TM # for M1A1 jeep from the mid 80s (9-2320_218_10). Close to that anyway.

But I've been so intimidated by these dang transmission s that in was sure I wouldn't get it. But the manual Turf provided made perfect sense, and now I know how to do the job. I have to take the transmission out again to line up the TC, but they show how to make a tool from a m-10 bolt to ensure it lines up.
Confidence is high now. Should have the Blunderbuss mobile in a week.

Just need 15 mountain mi!es to my land.

Again, thanks to everyone here. It's a great resource, even for those of us who don't interface well with computers (troglodyte).


Peace.
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