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Old 02-09-2018, 08:51 AM   #21
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I should be more specific. I would be towing a 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser with a curb weight of 4,426 pounds. So, if I am understanding this correctly, when considering the towing capability of a given transmission, both the towing and towed vehicle must be taken into consideration?
Yes. You'd be fine towing that. Forum member YellowXJ tows a Cherokee across the usa with a short bus on a van chassis with a gas 350. Diesel bus with allison can tow that no problemo.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:10 AM   #22
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I should be more specific. I would be towing a 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser with a curb weight of 4,426 pounds. So, if I am understanding this correctly, when considering the towing capability of a given transmission, both the towing and towed vehicle weights must be taken into consideration?
ECCB is absolutely correct about the engine being able to haul that load fine, but the transmission may be marginal for your purposes.

Well. let's do the math.

Specs on that vehicle state:
Curb weight 18,000–35,000 lb (8,164.7–15,875.7 kg) (GVWR)

Tow vehicle 4500 lbs

Allison 2500 trans is good for 33,000

Do you plan on adding any cabinets or water tanks or anything, or is it just an empty shell?

I guess we need more data about the bus. If we average the curb weights we get 25,000 + 4500 lbs = 30,000 lbs, which is under the max they recommend.

Tell us how heavy your bus is and what your build will have.

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Old 02-09-2018, 09:59 AM   #23
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GVWR of the bus is 23,000 pounds. Don't know the curb weight. Light, minimalist build out, no waste or fresh water tanks.

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Old 02-09-2018, 10:15 AM   #24
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GVWR of the bus is 23,000 pounds. Don't know the curb weight. Light, minimalist build out, no waste or fresh water tanks.
The math says it looks like a go!

That should put your mind at ease.

Nice toad ! Are you towing 4-down, or dolly...trailer?

J60 diesel? 12H-T?
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I also thought that 2500 would work fine with a toad. What would be an adequate transmission in this case?
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:27 AM   #26
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The math says it looks like a go!

That should put your mind at ease.

Nice toad ! Are you towing 4-down, or dolly...trailer?

J60 diesel? 12H-T?
Thank you very much! This is all in the planning stage but would probably be 4 down. My plan is to go somewhere, stay for while and use the Cruiser. Home on wheels with vehicle. Then, on to another great location. Gasoline fueled. 12H-T? Cheers, Norm
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Thank you very much! This is all in the planning stage but would probably be 4 down. My plan is to go somewhere, stay for while and use the Cruiser. Home on wheels with vehicle. Then, on to another great location. Gasoline fueled. 12H-T? Cheers, Norm
12H-T is the diesel.

Have you towed that 4-down? Some vehicles are not fond. Manual hubs and you can probably get-by.


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Edit- you have 1987...did not see.


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Thanks, hadn't given that any thought. Years ago I pulled a Volkswagon bus behind a 1970 full sized bus with a Chevy 350 V8. LC has Warn, manually locking free wheeling hubs. I'm going to check into this on the Land Cruiser sites. By the way, I would love too find that bus which was last located in Sussex County NJ around 1991.



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Thanks, hadn't given that any thought. Years ago I pulled a Volkswagon bus behind a 1970 full sized bus with a Chevy 350 V8. LC has Warn, manually locking free wheeling hubs. I'm going to check into this on the Land Cruiser sites. By the way, I would love too find that bus which was last located in Sussex County NJ around 1991.



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Please take a minute and fill-in your profile so we all know what you are driving and it's specs. Location, too. It makes it easier for people to answer ?'s
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I also thought that 2500 would work fine with a toad. What would be an adequate transmission in this case?
Absolutely would be.
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GVWR of the bus is 23,000 pounds. Don't know the curb weight. Light, minimalist build out, no waste or fresh water tanks.

My last 40 footer weighed 17.9k and that had a HEAVY engine and was built like a tank.
I'll bet without seats your bus weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-18k.
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