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Old 02-03-2020, 11:26 AM   #1
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ServiceMaxx (J1708) adapters

The Navistar Service Max software recommends these three adapters,

NEXIQ™ Technologies – USB-Link
Dearborn Group Technologies – DPA 5
Noregon® Systems, Inc. – DLA, DLA USB

Are there any other lower cost adapters that would work?

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Old 02-03-2020, 12:10 PM   #2
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I've got one of the cheap Nexiq usblink clones. I haven't connected to a navistar yet but it worked good for my ISB and MD3060. I don't anticipate any issues with navistar.
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:52 PM   #3
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I've got one of the cheap Nexiq usblink clones. I haven't connected to a navistar yet but it worked good for my ISB and MD3060. I don't anticipate any issues with navistar.

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Can you point me in the direction on where to get a clone?
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Old 02-03-2020, 05:01 PM   #4
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I got mine from aliexpress, they don't necessarily let on that they're clones so you can search for nexiq and come up with the kits. A lot of fiddling to make it work but I was able to change speed limiters and cruise controls on both brands today.
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Old 02-03-2020, 05:19 PM   #5
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I got mine from aliexpress, they don't necessarily let on that they're clones so you can search for nexiq and come up with the kits. A lot of fiddling to make it work but I was able to change speed limiters and cruise controls on both brands today.

Great!

Thanks!!!

I found this one, but what I don't see is, will it work ok for a DT466E ?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32855806912.html
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:47 PM   #6
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I got this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3286...7fd34c4d2dHJVH second from the left the $128.50 with plastic box. It works fine with the DT466E. The ones that claim to be clones of the ublink2 have the same innards as the ones that claim to be clones of the usblink1, so don't pay extra money for a different looking case.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:42 PM   #7
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I purchased a bluefire. It gives diagnostics and a live digital dashboard
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Old 04-03-2020, 09:39 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=Dead pirate;371729]I purchased a bluefire. It gives diagnostics and a live digital dashboard[/ca

can it also be used in conjunction with the servicemaxx software like the nexiq adapters?
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Old 04-04-2020, 10:04 AM   #9
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the bluefire is not an RP1210 adapter.. it will not operate with servicemaxx.. I have the bluefire and the blue link and the USBlink2 adapters.. the only one which operates with servicemaxx is the USBlink 2 or a clone.. theoretically any RP1210 compliant adapter that supports J1708 should work with servicemaxx
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Old 04-04-2020, 11:32 AM   #10
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the bluefire is not an RP1210 adapter.. it will not operate with servicemaxx.. I have the bluefire and the blue link and the USBlink2 adapters.. the only one which operates with servicemaxx is the USBlink 2 or a clone.. theoretically any RP1210 compliant adapter that supports J1708 should work with servicemaxx
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Thank you for clarifying! Would you happen to have any suggestions on the most economical options for a unit or software to purchase for diagnostics, adjust governor and possibly do a little tuning for a little more HP/torque?
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Old 04-06-2020, 11:31 AM   #11
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I purchased a bluefire. It gives diagnostics and a live digital dashboard
Do you have a link for this or chinese equivalent ?

I wish to add live dash and digital screen on a tablet but am unsure what to actually buy...

a link would be most helpful as i have neither the device nor a tablet yet and wish to buy good ones
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Old 09-26-2020, 10:12 PM   #12
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I have a cummins inline 6 adapter. It works with service maxx very well. Has been able to do everything Ive needed with the exception of one things.

I found someone to flash my transmission control module to open up the 6th gear in my md3060. It will do everything but flash that. In allisons wisdom they do not make the inline 6 an adapter choice. I only needed to flash it once so I found a truck shop and rented theirs in the parking lot for a few hours. It was a nexiq.

If I was getting one that is probably what I would get but I bought a used inline 6 off ebay and has worked very well.

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Old 09-27-2020, 02:23 AM   #13
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Do you have a link for this or chinese equivalent ?

I wish to add live dash and digital screen on a tablet but am unsure what to actually buy...

a link would be most helpful as i have neither the device nor a tablet yet and wish to buy good ones
The BlueFire website is here: https://bluefire-llc.com/website
If you purchase from them and enter "AMAZON" as the discount code, you can get it for less than you can get it off Amazon.
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Old 09-27-2020, 09:02 AM   #14
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I'm already doing lots of automation work and part of that is integrating the ECU data. I searched for a long while before I found this:

https://www.digikey.com/product-deta...paign=digiintl

If you're not looking for integration with diagnostics software, but rather a custom integration where you use ECU data in your own code, I don't think it gets much easier than this. This little device has its own documented REST API.

I haven't bought it yet, lots of other priorities in flight. But when I do my integration, that's going to be my link to the ECU.
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Old 09-27-2020, 09:30 AM   #15
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I saw that device someplace and have used other digi devices for a long time.. what do you connect to it with? wifi? I really hate coding for bluetooth.. I use a couple different devices that work reallty well..



this is one for J1939.. its designed as a SIM but it can also monitor and essentially communicate as any other J1939 device..



https://copperhilltech.com/sae-j1939...with-usb-port/


this is a serial one i use ..(I have the older version.. this one is better)


https://iotmart.advantech.com/Serial...-BB-HD3-A3.htm


the protocols on these are easy to work with also.



integrating vehicle data and features into my own code is a big part of my project on that bus..



its not just for reading either.. you can actually exercise control of the engine / transmission with this stuff...

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Old 10-21-2020, 09:02 PM   #16
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Thank you for clarifying! Would you happen to have any suggestions on the most economical options for a unit or software to purchase for diagnostics, adjust governor and possibly do a little tuning for a little more HP/torque?
The clone of the nexiq usb link (original one) works fine with servicemaxx. Servicemaxx is freeware - just google “servicemaxx download”. You’ll get a download site from Navistar.snapon.com. That will provide all the engine diag tests for free. As for horsepower changes, if you have the right access level in the servicemaxx software, you can change the horsepower pretty easily. However that takes engineering access and almost nobody has that access level. I’m not at all familiar with aftermarket tuning -only through servicemaxx. Other option is to pay for an International dealer to do the increase for you.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:59 PM   #17
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I have the version that can change any parameter .. you must match correct EFRC code with HP rating and I suggest getting an EGT gauge if you are going to play.. there are many experimental parameters you can alter to get where you want to be if you dare
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:11 PM   #18
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I have the version that can change any parameter .. you must match correct EFRC code with HP rating and I suggest getting an EGT gauge if you are going to play.. there are many experimental parameters you can alter to get where you want to be if you dare
Now that is pretty neat!
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