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07-13-2016, 03:53 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Any idea what this is?
Don't know if the pic will come through, but it has a cut airline to it. Wondering what it is since I can't find a part number on it....
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07-13-2016, 03:54 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Originally Posted by Docsgsxr
Don't know if the pic will come through, but it has a cut airline to it. Wondering what it is since I can't find a part number on it....
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07-13-2016, 04:19 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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My first response would be "Nothing important" since the air line is cut (and presumably the remainder is missing). A more proper answer is it's probably an air-relay, likely for the air-actuated stop sign or crossing bar which may have been removed or disabled by the school district prior to decommissioning the bus. I wouldn't be surprised if the wire going to it was "dead" too, either cut somewhere or had a fuse pulled.
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07-13-2016, 06:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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definitely like the last post an air relay... on my bus i had one like it under the hood for the srtop sign... also if its near the firewall many busses came with "air shutters" that closed during cold weather... these became problemartic as they aged.. would stick and rust so people would take them off... they used an air-relay also..
-Christopher
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07-14-2016, 08:30 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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well the signs worked when I bought the bus, I have since removed the power to that switch and took it out. The 8 way system for the lights is gone too. So if it is in fact a relay for the stop signs, it shouldn't hurt anything if i remove it completely, right? I had the motor replaced and a new ecm programmed for it. I plan on taking the signs off next weekend.
-Doc
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07-15-2016, 07:10 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I took the air relays off for my stop signs.. I traced the air lines going back to the cab of the bus and knew that I had no reason for air to be in the cab.. I have no air seat and my air ride suspension I had already found where it goes.. I started pulling o nthe line and it popped out as an empty ended hose.. so I yanked the air relay and tagged the wires so in case i need a wire for somethign under the hood I knew the other ends went to the stop sign and school-lights contreoller I bad removed... I saved the valve relay too as I might at some point need one for something..
-Christopher
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07-15-2016, 08:12 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MNT CITY TN
Posts: 5,158
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what is odd is the AN style fitting?normally reserved for fluids, where does other end of hose go?
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07-15-2016, 08:17 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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those are standard air fittings.. I have them all over my bus.. some with copper line and some with nylon line..they look like AN fittings but they are a ferrule type fitting..
-Christopher
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07-15-2016, 11:33 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Like Christopher said. They are for air. The lines that go all the way forward to the door control and air seat are the same red tubing. Good eye there Bansil!
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07-27-2016, 05:50 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 6
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX Safety Liner
Engine: 3126 cat
Rated Cap: 72
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It's a control solenoid for the cooling fan. By removing the single wire you open the solenoid allowing air pressure to go to the fan clutch engaging the cooling fan at full speed. When the wire is hooked up the ecm controls the fan. If I'm correct there should be an air line that goes to the fan clutch. The cut off piece of air hose is just an exhaust tube
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07-27-2016, 08:37 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 6
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX Safety Liner
Engine: 3126 cat
Rated Cap: 72
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An edit to my previous post......
By removing the single wire you close the solenoid which stops the air pressure from getting to the fan clutch which then causes the fan to run at engine rpm speed constantly. I previously said you open the solenoid by disconnecting the wire. Air pressure disengages the fan clutch and the fan just kinda goes along for the ride. No air pressure engages the air clutch and the fan spins at the rpm as the engine.
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08-10-2016, 10:22 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Chino Valley AZ
Posts: 15
Year: 1991
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 8.3 L Cummins
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Question
I don't know if it is allowed, but could we talk on the phone about clutch fans. Don't know anything about using this web site.
If you know how could talk, please let me know. Just interested in talking with someone that knows about this stuff.
Thanks
JimW
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