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01-03-2020, 08:23 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Also you probably have an air actuated tilt steering column. The button to adjust the steering wheel is on the floor where the dimmer switch would be on old cars.
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01-03-2020, 08:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I was pleased with how clean mine looked after 18 years
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01-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
IS your parking brake air operated?
My old shorty had hydro brakes but an air parking/e-brake. Is your door air operated?
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the door is air operated.
I guess have an air operated parking brake???
attached is a photo of the yellow parking brake
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01-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Yep. Air door, parking brake, and steering column.
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01-03-2020, 08:40 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banman
Damn, your engine is clean...
Okay, going diagonally from lower left to upper right: 1) black can is your power steering reservoir 2) black hose running vertically between the silver and yellow cans goes to your eng driver air compressor 3) silver can is part of the HEUI pump 4) yellow can with 'CAT' on it is your primary fuel filter 5) is your hyd. brake resevoir. Directly below the hyd. res. is your ABS pump.
From your previous pix:
The brake on your tranny output shaft/drive shaft is cable actuated from the lever to the left of your steering column.
edit: just saw your post about air-actuated door & parking brake. Interesting... That would mean you need to build air pressure before driving -- the systems not just for funzzies like I'd want it...
The two wet hoses are for your tranny cooler. Check your fluid level. wipe down the hoses, check the connections for tightness (don't over tighten) wash the hoses off if possible and dry them again. Monitor them for continued wetness.
I'm excited to see your bus came with hydraulic brakes and an eng driven air compressor.
Means I can easily add onboard air to my build from a junkyard run...
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LOTS of good info here. thanks!
I'll monitor the tranny cooler hoses.
I'm excited about the air compressor as well, since I also would like to have onboard air for airing up tires and, as silly as it sounds, air blowing my dog after the dog beach.
Any idea how, with my currently setup to safely add a quick connect to be able to use onboard air?
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01-03-2020, 08:42 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Also you probably have an air actuated tilt steering column. The button to adjust the steering wheel is on the floor where the dimmer switch would be on old cars.
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You're right, I was wondering what that was as well. I pressed it with my foot and the steering wheel jumped
Man do I have alot to learn.
thanks all so far!
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01-03-2020, 08:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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since the group is so helpful I wanted to keep it going...
here are photos of my controls and dash
on the top left
the black switch labeled amber warning on and the grey switch labeled on overide seem to both work the red flashing lights on the top front and rear and stop sign
on the dash, the trans gauge seems to sit right above 100 all the time. I wonder what is normal operating temp here.
and also, I have an RPM control switch and a 3 position RPM up and down switch right next to it. I'm sure that's handy for something...
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01-03-2020, 08:59 PM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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The rpm switches are to turn on the high idle function.
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01-03-2020, 09:00 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
The rpm switches are to turn on the high idle function.
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what would be a scenario where I (the bus) would need that?
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01-03-2020, 09:02 PM
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#30
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sepudo
LOTS of good info here. thanks!
I'll monitor the tranny cooler hoses.
I'm excited about the air compressor as well, since I also would like to have onboard air for airing up tires and, as silly as it sounds, air blowing my dog after the dog beach.
Any idea how, with my currently setup to safely add a quick connect to be able to use onboard air?
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I mounted a hose reel off the back end of the passenger frame rail and used a hose bib on the outside to mount it accessibly. Plumbed a shutoff valve in at the air tank so I could separate the hose from the system unless I need it. Granted the bus must be running to utilize it, but it there in a pinch. Had I thought a bit more, I would have mounted it further midship. At the rear I can't reach my drivers tire with a 25' hose, need an extension hose for the fronts. Mounted more midship it would reach everywhere on the bus.
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01-03-2020, 09:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sepudo
what would be a scenario where I (the bus) would need that?
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Diesels dont' get hot enough without some load on the engine. If left idling soot and unburnt fuel can accumulate.
So if idling more than about 5 minutes or so the high idle is best.
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01-03-2020, 10:05 PM
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#32
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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gonna look into plumbing my air tank as well as using the high idle whenever I use the air tank for onboard air I guess! good combo.
thanks all
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01-03-2020, 10:32 PM
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#33
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Diesels dont' get hot enough without some load on the engine. If left idling soot and unburnt fuel can accumulate.
So if idling more than about 5 minutes or so the high idle is best.
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To that end, many big trucks have auto idle shutdowns after about 5 minutes, (most of) the ones I've driven would idle indefinitely if "idled-up". Typically traffic idle (larger 10+ liter engines) is 6-700 RPM where parking idle is 800-900+. Anything more is simply wasting fuel, unless you have a specific need for a higher engine speed (faster air pressure recovery, operating a PTO or hydraulics, etc.)
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01-03-2020, 10:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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01-09-2020, 01:37 AM
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#35
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Anyone know what this red push button might be for?
2003 Thomas Freightliner bus FS65 T1
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01-09-2020, 01:40 AM
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#36
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Anyone know what these white and yellow connectors may have been for?
They don't seem to connect to each other as they have different pins
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01-09-2020, 02:15 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sepudo
Anyone know what this red push button might be for?
2003 Thomas Freightliner bus FS65 T1 Attachment 40569
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Looks like an old floor mounted, foot operated headlight dimmer switch, however, I've read on this forum that some places used it to activate the 8-way flashers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sepudo
Anyone know what these white and yellow connectors may have been for?
They don't seem to connect to each other as they have different pins Attachment 40570
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Could be anything that was removed - radio, cameras, 8-way flashers, or something for which wires were provided, but never installed or used.
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01-09-2020, 07:20 AM
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#38
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
the red, white and blue item on the primary tank is a automatic water spitter valve. every time the Governor signals the unloader valve in the compressor to shut off (when the tank reaches 120 psi)it will spit out any moisture it has collected
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my red bus came with that same valve.. if you plan to drive this bus in very cold temperatures.. ditch this POS and install a heated air dryer.. I froze my whole air system up and cracked the head on the compressor because the governor froze from water being expelled into the line backfed by this POS valve..
if you dont plan to drive in really cold temperatures then you will likely be fine with that valve...
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01-09-2020, 05:01 PM
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#39
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Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Socal and Vegas
Posts: 178
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: fs65
Engine: 7.2 catapillar 3126
Rated Cap: 41 students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad_SwiftFur
Looks like an old floor mounted, foot operated headlight dimmer switch, however, I've read on this forum that some places used it to activate the 8-way flashers.
Could be anything that was removed - radio, cameras, 8-way flashers, or something for which wires were provided, but never installed or used.
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Foot operated switch is likely to be headlight related or flasher related. I'll have someone stand outside and tell me if anything happens when I push down.
As for the connectors... Any idea how to check where it leads to? Short of disassembling the dash and tracing it back to its origin? Thanks all
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01-10-2020, 12:58 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 578
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
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Got a better picture of those connectors? At first I thought they were very generic pin it yourself kinda things, but on second glance they look like they fit a rocker switch just like the ones in the rest of your dash panel.
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