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07-15-2019, 09:55 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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911 help needed....
I just bought a 2002 Bluebird RE 8.3. I have driven 140 miles and have lost about a gallon of oil. I believe it might be turbo seals. I cannot find any obvious leaks when it is idleing. Oil is everywhere but seems to be coming from turbo side and toward firewall. Hydraulic fluid is low as well. What kind of fluid is used in hydraulic fan power steering system. Can’t find it on google anywhere. If there is anyone who would want to call me my cell is 573-489-2721. I am currently in Meeker Colorado and need to get to Missouri. 900 miles. Plan now is to keep oil in it and drive on. Not excited about getting on I 70 going up toward continental divide not knowing.
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07-15-2019, 10:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Found power steering question. 10w-30
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07-15-2019, 11:35 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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07-15-2019, 11:37 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Rapid City, SD
Posts: 993
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: CS RE
Engine: ISC 8.3 L 260 hp
Rated Cap: 36
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I wouldn't drive it if its leaking that much. There is a pressure line to the turbo and a return line back to the oil pan one of those could be leaking. If it's your high pressure line the turbo won't live long. Pictures would be helpful in diagnosing the problem.
You are correct power steering is 10w30.
Ted
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07-16-2019, 02:23 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Couple of pics
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07-16-2019, 02:30 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Quite a bit of the oil is coming from the fan/steering system. We have put over 2 gallons in the hydraulic system in 240 miles. Making a mess for sure. This might be why people spend the extra money to buy from a dealer. On another note. Haven’t made it to the continental divide yet. Currently parked for the night at Walmart Breckenridge CO. Will try to find a parts store that will make new hydraulic hoses in the morn.
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07-16-2019, 05:04 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Originally Posted by Ernie's Autowerks
Quite a bit of the oil is coming from the fan/steering system. We have put over 2 gallons in the hydraulic system in 240 miles. Making a mess for sure. This might be why people spend the extra money to buy from a dealer. On another note. Haven’t made it to the continental divide yet. Currently parked for the night at Walmart Breckenridge CO. Will try to find a parts store that will make new hydraulic hoses in the morn.
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Could still happen at a dealer.
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07-16-2019, 07:42 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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I hate to be a downer so....good notes.....this bus seems to run great. Also seems like 6 th gear is already open. I have been driving in 5th because that keeps rpm right around 2k at 60 mph. In 6th is is around 1800. Around 70 the front end feels very loose, that combined with oil slick coming from rear isn’t making me want to drive it like I stole it. MPG first fuel stop was 139 miles/17.5 gallons. Right at 7.8 mpg when I calculated. 100 gal tank should make a nice cruiser when we get the oil leaks sorted out.
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07-16-2019, 07:51 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,990
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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when you get near a city, Look for a NAPA with machine shop services.. you can call into the city ahead to any NAPA store and see if there is a store within the area with a machine shop.. often times they are located near large areas of trucking yards and warehouses.. they can make custom hydraulic Hoses.. sometimes you get lucky and there is a large parking lot right near or at least a safe place to pull off where you can yank your hoses and walk in with them.. they usually can make them in a few hours..
you will want to do this before you hit the divide... you need your Fan to be able to operate on high speed and not be low on fluid where itc an heat up the hydraulic pump..
-Christopher
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07-16-2019, 08:03 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Agreed Cadillac. I’m only 12 miles from the top, then down hill to Denver. Fan is still working fine just blowing out lots of oil.
I was reading another post and there was mention of a mobile mechanic. I have never used one but now might be a good time. Anybody got any ideas how to find a good one?
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07-16-2019, 08:04 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie's Autowerks
Agreed Cadillac. I’m only 12 miles from the top, then down hill to Denver. Fan is still working fine just blowing out lots of oil.
I was reading another post and there was mention of a mobile mechanic. I have never used one but now might be a good time. Anybody got any ideas how to find a good one?
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Should be able to find someone out there near Denver for sure.
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07-16-2019, 08:12 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,089
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
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Found a pile of 'em by Goo-Fu'ing, "mobile diesel mechanics Denver CO"
A few are even open ATM...
May be some even closer, but don't have your 10-20
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07-16-2019, 08:47 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Pics after overnight no clean up
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07-16-2019, 09:23 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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I would think Silverthorne would have mobile mechanic and possibly a NAPA Leaving there you are on a steady 6% climb for 10+ miles 'til you hit the top. Just sayin'.......
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07-16-2019, 09:35 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,990
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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truckdown.com then search for mobile repair service..
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07-16-2019, 09:57 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustav
I would think Silverthorne would have mobile mechanic and possibly a NAPA Leaving there you are on a steady 6% climb for 10+ miles 'til you hit the top. Just sayin'.......
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I know......I’m skeert......
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07-16-2019, 11:04 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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I am at a small Napa in Frisco. They can make some hoses. If not I can drive to Denver in my towd Chevy Tracker. I believe this hose is the culprit. Runs from fan motor to hydraulic cooler. Anybody know what style of fitting it uses? Specs on hose size would be awesome as well...
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07-16-2019, 11:32 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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Now you are getting this under control! Did not realize you had the Tracker. Best of luck!
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07-16-2019, 12:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Not sure if you have tools aboard but it wouldn't hurt to pull that hose and get the shop to make the same.
There may be others needing attention but you have to start somewhere I guess.
Stock up on rags and degreaser while there and more oil just in case.
Best of luck, be safe and hope this gets worked out soon.
John
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07-16-2019, 03:01 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Fulton Mo
Posts: 22
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD 3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Went to a car wash and washed as well as I could. Found a steady drip in this small hose and Napa built a new one for $38. Getting ready to test drive now but fingers crossed.
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