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Old 01-26-2020, 10:03 PM   #1
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Trying to buy this Bluebird TC2000FE
but it will not start, jumper cable on the battery, replaced the fuel filter, checked each injector line of 6 and we have fuel coming out of all, checked all fuses inside & out had 1 blown 10a under the passenger side window wiper door and replaced it,

jiggled the shifter to make sure it was firmly in place, all is good, it's in neutral, turn key wait for lighting Sequence to complete before completing the key Ignition turn,.. just cranks no fire.

now the ower said the gas gage was showing a 1/4 tank a week ago, then this Friday morning the bus isn't kicking over and the fuel gage isn't moving from Empty doesn't move. 10 gallons was added.

only getting white smoke from the either starter fluid, no gray or black smoke at all.

Cummins 5.9 24v Champion, we have 110v hooked up to the engine warmer also.

I'm 700 miles away from home, trying to get the bus home with me, plz help!
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:46 PM   #2
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Diesels just need heat and fuel to run
You either have not enough heat or not enough fuel
Heat is provide to a cold engine mainly by the intake heater(on a 24v Cummins) if it’s working the intake manifold will be noticeably warmer than the surrounding engine parts.
And the compression from cylinders doing their up and down thing fast enough. Batteries are good and spinning the engine over fast enough?
Btw don’t use ether with an intake heater bad things can happen.

As far as fuel goes there are plenty of reasons it might not be getting enough.
Since it may have sucked air into the lines that is a good place to start because any air bubbles in the system can cause it to not start or run roughly.
Work methodically to verify where fuel is and is not. You can start by trying to prime it as a first step and see if that helps
https://itstillruns.com/prime-cummin...p-7827665.html
Then you could move on to cracking the injectors to see if there is fuel there or not
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Old 01-27-2020, 11:44 AM   #3
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Fuel gauge does not show gas has not moved we are told that the computer will not allow the bus to start because of it being on E is there a way to fix this?
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:52 PM   #4
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I’ve never heard of that buuuut there’s a lot I don’t know.
If that is the case I think the problem would not be with the gauge but with the sending unit because the signal goes to the computer then the gauge. If you knew the resistance range of the sending unit you could pick up a resistor that is say smack in the middle of the range and make a jumper wire with the resistor inline and unhook the sending unit and plug your jumper into that. The computer would then think it has a 1/2 tank of fuel.
Have you verified you are not getting any fuel from the injectors?
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If the starter is spinning you've ruled out a bunch of stuff already. Don't spray starting fluid any more, your engine will have a grid heater that can/will explode.
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Old 02-05-2020, 01:53 PM   #6
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So I got it to a REAL diesel mechanic that has a working commercial Diagnostic port reader... hooked it up and got nothing.... thinking that when the original owner had hooked up a battery charger he hooked it up backwards.. the charger he used has its cable leads mismatched ... Positive is negative and negative it positive.....



he told me after a week of trial and error that he thinks this was the cause.



Waiting to test it again with a 2nd Diagnostic Port reader just to ensure its not reading.


And already have a replacement on the way!..
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