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03-28-2019, 06:46 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 253
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Type D front engine
I see a lot of BB type D All American with FE 5.9l engines. Is there enough room upfront to install an 8.3?
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03-28-2019, 06:49 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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With enough modification you can get anything to fit. But BB only produced the BBAA FE and TC2000 FE with the 5.9. Rear engine models had the 8.3 option.
Edit: I'm wrong, 8.3 was an option in the AA!
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03-28-2019, 07:24 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
With enough modification you can get anything to fit. But BB only produced the BBAA FE and TC2000 FE with the 5.9. Rear engine models had the 8.3 option.
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Yes, the 8.3 is about 500 pounds heavier than the 5.9, not including the size needed for a bigger block, larger accessories, etc.
Related to this...with a FE type D....what is your guess as to how much storage space is lost under the floor because of the drive shaft? Would it be safe to confine the drive shaft into a box 9literally build a box around it so that I could put other storage compartments next to it) that is 1ft by 1ft by 20 something feet? Is it possible/safe to do that? When I think that way, I realize that by having a FE engine, I gain storage space because the rear of the bus (that the engine used to occupy) is bigger than that 20 cubic feet that the drive shaft wastes. Too bad I couldn't just connect an electric motor to the rear end and connect a genset head to the engine up front....optimal space!
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03-28-2019, 07:29 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengyou
I see a lot of BB type D All American with FE 5.9l engines. Is there enough room upfront to install an 8.3?
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8.3 was available in the AA.
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03-28-2019, 07:31 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
With enough modification you can get anything to fit. But BB only produced the BBAA FE and TC2000 FE with the 5.9. Rear engine models had the 8.3 option.
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I've seen enough FE 8.3's to say that you're incorrect, sir or mam.
I found this in 30 secs on google.
https://www.purplewave.com/auction/160928A/item/L2551
We need this info stickied!
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03-28-2019, 08:15 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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I stand corrected on that. I thought I had read that the both the TC and AA were all 5.9 in FE but it seems it was only the TC. Thank you sir or ma'am!
So there you go, OP.
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03-28-2019, 08:22 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
I stand corrected on that. I thought I had read that the both the TC and AA were all 5.9 in FE but it seems it was only the TC. Thank you sir or ma'am!
So there you go, OP.
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Thanks! If I hold my coffee cup up to my ear, I can almost hear the sound of the jacuzzi jets splashing the water around in the back of my skoolie
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03-28-2019, 09:13 AM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/jacuzzi-bus-11.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by pengyou
Thanks! If I hold my coffee cup up to my ear, I can almost hear the sound of the jacuzzi jets splashing the water around in the back of my skoolie
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04-03-2019, 07:20 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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There are a few FE's in CO with 8.3 ending in a little while-
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2304568
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04-03-2019, 10:57 AM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,404
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
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The bid is up to$2650 for a bus with a broken transmission...,.
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04-03-2019, 08:59 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
The bid is up to$2650 for a bus with a broken transmission...,.
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Did all of them have broken transmissions?
I didn't even look.
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04-03-2019, 09:04 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,404
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Did all of them have broken transmissions?
I didn't even look.
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I didn't look. The one in the link had a broken transmission.
Holy cow! It sold for $6350!
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04-03-2019, 09:07 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I didn't look. The one in the link had a broken transmission.
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Ah, I think there were at least 3 of em. I was just in a hurry before work!
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04-03-2019, 09:11 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 152
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I was watching the early 90's 8.3 until they finally decided to disclose the broken transmission. It was only after a few questions, so that tells you what kind of sellers they are.
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04-03-2019, 09:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,404
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinson
I was watching the early 90's 8.3 until they finally decided to disclose the broken transmission. It was only after a few questions, so that tells you what kind of sellers they are.
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No doubt!
IMHO: That should have been disclosed in the description.
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04-03-2019, 09:33 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,404
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Another one of those sold for $6650 and has "the transmission is slipping".
I would definitely avoid this seller. They don't disclose issues in the description.
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04-03-2019, 09:59 PM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
Another one of those sold for $6650 and has "the transmission is slipping".
I would definitely avoid this seller. They don't disclose issues in the description.
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I've been on the receiving end of that!
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04-04-2019, 11:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2014
Location: West Ohio
Posts: 3,834
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Wow, that is shady. I hope whoever bought that realized what they were bidding on. Be a pretty big shock paying that much and finding out the hard way.
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04-04-2019, 12:07 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,990
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I didnt see anything in the listings about busted transmissions.. was it something you had to email them about?
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04-04-2019, 12:08 PM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I didnt see anything in the listings about busted transmissions.. was it something you had to email them about?
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It was only in the questions:
Question #5
Mar 28, 2019 8:49:09 PM CDT
does this bus run well?
Answer
all but transmission, needs repaired/replaced
(Answered: Mar 29, 2019 11:33:04 AM CDT )
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