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Old 03-23-2017, 05:38 PM   #1
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I know there are a few fellow burners here- so just a friendly reminder about ticket registration....
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How much are tickets this year?
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I Believe 425. I think 24 dollars go to the Organization, and the other 401 dollars go to line the pockets of the BLM and other state and federal leeches.....
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Seriously, the government is in on the money grab for Burning Man?
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dayum i never realized BM was a pricey endeavor... , but alas there im sure are permits and porta potty rental fees and cleanup crews and all other kinds of stuff that goes into it as big as it seems to be now...

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dayum i never realized BM was a pricey endeavor... , but alas there im sure are permits and porta potty rental fees and cleanup crews and all other kinds of stuff that goes into it as big as it seems to be now...

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Yup! I went in 1999 and 2009. Big difference in those years. In 99, I was able to buy my ticket at the gate for $110! Couldn't do that in 2009. Had to buy online for over $350...ouch! In 99 - the population just hit 20,000 and that was a big deal! Now, its around 60-70,000 I think...

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Is that desert a park? Even if it is a park, prices like that are simply price gouging from the government. How big a mess do they make out there that Parks and Recreation needs to charge that kind of fees?

If I pay that much to go to a party, Parks a Recreation probably needs to supply the booze and entertainment.
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Is that desert a park? Even if it is a park, prices like that are simply price gouging from the government. How big a mess do they make out there that Parks and Recreation needs to charge that kind of fees?

If I pay that much to go to a party, Parks a Recreation probably needs to supply the booze and entertainment.
They do make a HUGE mess.
And its not just the greedy govt... the whole thing has become a giant money grab.
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A non profit whose board get huge salaries.
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Oh, I'm starting to understand now. Thanks for the link.

Cleanup and Restoration | Burning Man

Even the cleanup is volunteer, necessary based on the permit from Parks Dept. Like your article said, the board members profit from thousands of hours of volunteer labor. No mention of free tickets for the volunteers either.



I love hippie gatherings and it would be a lot of fun to see the artsy vehicles and other interesting things. Besides, who doesn't love a good week long party? Still those dust storms don't look like a good time.
The information demonstrating greed and deception by the board about ticket pricing is easily available, although I've never looked it up before. It's a massive event (over 70,000), but honestly I'm surprised the hippies will pay that much to go there. I have no doubt that it's a good time there, but people I know said it was miserable with dust and grit blowing in the strong wind most of the time.
Bus camping would be the way to go, especially if you had a shower to rise off with.
I'm not the accountant type, but there was mention of over $7,000,000 in value. The board members give themselves $48,000 each as disclosed paid board members, unusual for a non-profit entity, but they are also allowed to withdraw unbridled amounts as bonuses and expenses. Disclosure is practically non-existant from the board, and they seem to continue to put out false information.
This is a money grab hidden behind a non-profit. Nondisclosure allows them to continue. The weird part is they could run the entire thing as a normal business venture.
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As a hippie, its my understanding is that BM is more for the wealthy technocrats out west.
Don't get me wrong- I know SEVERAL really cool folks who go. But they all have lots of $$$$. Everyone I know who are into it are really intelligent folks, too, fwiw.
I just don't think its an actual "hippie" thing as much as people would think...
ALL the "hippie" festivals have sorta shifted gears into huge money grabs. Just look at Bonnaroo. What a horrible lineup, it gets so much worse every year.
If you're out west and can afford to go to BM, its definitely gotta be an adventure. Just not for everyone.
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part of my issue is the pricing... not because I couldnt afford it but simply put... 70,000 people.. lots but not crazy...

they Gay pride weekend in Columbus ohio brings enough to fill every hotel room in the city and then some.. 200k i think last year? they charge $10 for a bracelet thats good for friday saturday sunday... , bands play on multiple stages.., the saturday march takes 6+ hours of shut-down streets, police, etc..

if they can do it for $10 for 3 days why does it take 450 for 6 days at BM??

I mean we literally Take Over the city of Columbus that weekend...

and the weekend after is the 4 day "community festival".. which takes over a damn good portion of the city and that one is FREE... it *IS* pretty much a Hippie festival.. a mini-Woodstock of sorts...

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I agree it would be a good time and I've always loved the inventiveness and intelligence of hippies, and there's always some that give a bad name to hippies.

We have a hippie fest here in Oregon near Eugene, and there used to be a hemp festival even before hemp became legal here, all with reasonable (like state fair) pricing for tickets.

I simply wouldn't bother going to BM if I was going to be in a tent. Even a bus would gather grit and dust inside from the wind, much like in CO. There would likely be some skoolies there to see too, but no I'm not planning on contributing. I've got better things I could do with $400. I know BM would be an experience and I'd likely enjoy going. It's just a bit commercialized for my tastes.

I did contribute to Fish & Game for a new fishing license yesterday.
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BM facilities must all be brought in nothing is there the rest of the year so you can not compare to the cost of any event in any existing city.
That being said I think BM has become too big for itself.
They might be pricing the tickets higher and higher in order to keep the event manageable.
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BM facilities must all be brought in nothing is there the rest of the year so you can not compare to the cost of any event in any existing city.
That being said I think BM has become too big for itself.
They might be pricing the tickets higher and higher in order to keep the event manageable.
Or to keep actual hippies out.
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I agree they're using cost to try to limit the participants. It doesn't seem to be working that well at over 70,000 participants estimated in 2014 I think. Think how many people would show up without that cost factor.

BM even has a desert restoration crew that comes in after the cleanup crew is finished. Again all volunteer. I can't figure out how they got approved as a non-profit organization.

This is my first day of research on this subject. It's answered a lot of questions I've been carrying around for years since my kids started wanting to go to BM.
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I thought for the most part everyone brought their own stuff...

your own lodging, your own food, water, fuel, etc...

I mean there isnt someone making daily runs to krogers to get groceries for everyone..
and im guessing the ExXon truck isnt showing up every day to fuel up all the generators...

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BM might in fact be a "not for profit" which is different than a "non profit".
Nfp's can pay executives and employees whatever they want.
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I did not know that. That's my something learned for today.
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If I were to reply to these two pages of posts, it would become a fairly hefty book.

I run a Theme Camp of 30-ish people. Our primary gig is bicycle repair.
Last year, my camp repaired 629 bikes.

Also, I volunteer with the Org, patrolling the perimeter of the event site. (Security guard, border guard.)

And I am personally acquainted with one of the Burning Man Project board members. She is wealthy, and at Burning Man she pulls volunteer Ranger shifts just like I do Perimeter shifts.

Here's why I am not trying to comment on any of the previous posts:
Burning Man cannot be explained. It can only be lived.
Not seen. Not gone to. Only lived.

Here are two snapshot of my camp.

Oh... almost forgot: If you are sincerely interested in Burning Man, feel free to send me a PM.





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