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Old 11-08-2020, 10:34 AM   #1
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Skoolie folk input wanted

As some may know, I have been mired in the aftermath of a car accident and resulting injuries. I have finally been made an offer, and while it is not quite enough to realistically bankroll a build, I may have another opportunity.

I have found a piece of nice, picturesque property I can afford, that I think would be perfect for skoolie folk to get away and enjoy some awesome scenery. I know that RV parks are typically snobbish and don't allow skoolies, so I wondered how many people would frequent a place that does, were it available.

The question is, how many skoolie folk actually travel much, or for more than a day or two? The property in question is in a rural area in the SouthWest, with a nearby town for supplies. EDIT: What might be an acceptable going rate for boondocking space or full RV hookups?

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We're probably not typical skoolie folk, but IMO it totally depends on where it is, what the area is like (hiking, fishing, that sort of thing) and how the Verizon service is. We seek out places like that...remote, quiet and ample outdoor recreation. It's why we boondock instead of staying in campgrounds. The worst thing about public lands is you can't really stay for more than a few weeks, and moving around gets to be a bit of a grind. Kinda wish we had a place like that right now instead of being in our current predicament, a glorified trailer park in Appalachia
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My traveling does not usually have me parked in one place for any amount of time, and truck stops or walmarts serve well for that. Government campgrounds do accept skoolies and are good for a week or two if the area has something to do.


I would think long term livaboards would be attracted to a place they know they could stay for as long as they want.
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You might be able to market yourself on http://www.hipcamp.com

I recently stayed at a place in Morongo Valley near Joshua Tree. It wasnít remarkable, but they were working on it and it may be a really nice spot one day.

I paid to camp in my bus. I didnít have a reason to need any of the amenities because Iím self contained, but I also didnít want to sit in a casino parking lot and BLM land was too far away.
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My traveling does not usually have me parked in one place for any amount of time, and truck stops or walmarts serve well for that. Government campgrounds do accept skoolies and are good for a week or two if the area has something to do.

I would think long term livaboards would be attracted to a place they know they could stay for as long as they want.
Which brings to mind a question, added to the original post...

What might be an acceptable going rate for boondocking space or full RV hookups?
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Old 11-08-2020, 02:47 PM   #6
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Daily rate for the gov. campgrounds is $25, and no hookups.


Monthly seems to be about $4-500 per month in a regular campground. This is with full hookups. Skoolies are likely to want cheaper, and may not need full hookups, maybe just water, a nice view, and a bit more space. Just thinking for myself if I needed to stay for a while. Also for skoolies at least a limited shop to do repairs.
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Which brings to mind a question, added to the original post...

What might be an acceptable going rate for boondocking space or full RV hookups?
Like Danjo said, check out Hipcamp.com We've used it a couple times, it's basically people renting out their land for camping. Some with hookups, some without. That'll give you a good idea of the going rates in the area.
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For weekend camping I’d go depending on what was in the area. Lakes or streams, hiking, etc. I camp with my kids so they have to be occupied. Even if there is just a grassy area they can throw frisbees in. Ha!
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As some may know, I have been mired in the aftermath of a car accident and resulting injuries. I have finally been made an offer, and while it is not quite enough to realistically bankroll a build, I may have another opportunity.

I have found a piece of nice, picturesque property I can afford, that I think would be perfect for skoolie folk to get away and enjoy some awesome scenery. I know that RV parks are typically snobbish and don't allow skoolies, so I wondered how many people would frequent a place that does, were it available.

The question is, how many skoolie folk actually travel much, or for more than a day or two? The property in question is in a rural area in the SouthWest, with a nearby town for supplies. EDIT: What might be an acceptable going rate for boondocking space or full RV hookups?

I often considered the same, buying a piece of property far away so I cold go and remove myself from this crazy world filling itself up with artificial intelligence....

I myself would pick a place that made me happy then later I am sure there would be others who WOULD like a nice quiet spot to get away from it all.

Probably wont make a profit but as long as some income came in to help pay the taxes....good deal !
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I often considered the same, buying a piece of property far away so I cold go and remove myself from this crazy world filling itself up with artificial intelligence....
Nobody's getting away from the AI. Our only hope is that they'll want to keep some zoos around for us to live in. It's possible that's already happened.
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Nobody's getting away from the AI. Our only hope is that they'll want to keep some zoos around for us to live in. It's possible that's already happened.
... and this year has been especially entertaining to "the machine".
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Old 11-09-2020, 11:31 PM   #13
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... and this year has been especially entertaining to "the machine".
"WHAT did you say?"
"I'm the MACHINE!"

Sorry, couldn't resist...

"Guys, this is The Machine, if you give The Machine vodka, you'll have a great time."

If you're lost, look up Bert Kreischer and his Russian Mafia story.

BTW, I found out some more about this property today and it is as boondock as it gets, because there is absolutely no cheap way to get utility power. I was told the existing lines stop about 2-1/2 miles before the entrance road to the property, and that the power company's cost to run the lines is $43,000 per mile.

The property, of course, looks to be about 3 or 4 miles up the entrance road. I'm still considering it, but anyone using this property, should I buy it, will have to have solar and/or generator. The big challenge for me will be keeping my asthma at bay, as I am sensitive to heat and require constant air conditioning in the summer.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:57 AM   #14
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CW..that is the right kind of property...you do not want electric..that means you are traced right their..the usage of the electronic meters will tell the story....utility people will need right of way to " inspect"... Code people will come to see if your electric is up to snuff and with that decide that your bus is not an allowable structure to live in by code rule 312.a..subchapter 13 ..

If you want to be somewhat away then I would also have a directional antenna for you cell phone so that you can beam into one 5 mile away tower without be triangulated... The man wants to know where you are and how to get his money.....
Find some water so that you do not have to haul it in... Do not drill..you need a permit...and with that you are on the radar.....
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On the other part...traveling is fun... Expensive.... Sitting on a lot in the desert around quartzsite like many snow birds do seems to be very boring to me.. at least I need a barn with a shop to occupied myself long term... Books go only that far..
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36 acres, nice views and bluffs / mesas, appears to be a river or creek, free use well (haul your own water), in AZ with fairly balmy weather most of the year, some snow, good sun exposure for solar. Lots of plusses here.

Anybody wanna work with me on starting an off-grid skoolie community? I could feasibly have the property in a matter of weeks.
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Bear in mind that you (personally) would have to have a quarter mile between you and any neighbor using diesel.


For an idea how it might look (minus the power hookups) ... Caballo Loco Ranch
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Actually, I may have solutions for that one. Considering some small solar arrays and LP-powered generators for such situations... Also have possibilities for wind and water power as well. And there are always the ideas from this thread.
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Hmm, I feel I should share my experience:
I had an Agricultural use well dug and inspected prior to running electric and long before I had cleared trees for vehicle access. My neighbor allowed me to mow down a path thru 20 acres of pasture for the well equipment to get in. The next day, one inspection - without power. We could use a generator to pump water. I later paid for the power permit, citing the well; and my 17y/o son, his buddy & myself hand dug to the nearest power pole, crossing three different neighbors land on the way (I had the 'right of way' on their land). The power was connected by the utility company (on county land) Again, no road to my meter, the inspector had to walk, the utility company reads the meter from their truck. I believe the right of way rule applies to the owner of the service conductor. In my case the service entry conductor is "Customer Owned".
I currently have a permit titled "Right of Way" with the county dept. of trans. (Not the building dept) to install a culvert in the ditch that separates my land from the county hwy. Right of way on 25ft x 40ft of the county's land to the edge of the county rd.
Water rights are part of the purchase. Use it.
Is there any natural gas under that dirt? Check.
You mentioned moving water? Hydro electric has way more juice than wind or solar.
*All this is about how much value is available in a daily/monthly rate.
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The snag with hydro is whether some EcoNazi would start WWIII about disturbing the waterway to do so.
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