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Old 10-04-2020, 07:15 PM   #1
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Talking What's that noise?

I think it's those kids foolin around again!

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Old 10-04-2020, 08:50 PM   #2
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As someone who has come to appreciate school buses as honest-to-god engineering marvels, I'm actually offended by this video.

Edit: leaky engineering marvels.
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Old 10-04-2020, 10:33 PM   #3
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Destructive dumb-ass kids. I bet their parents are proud.
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Old 10-05-2020, 05:20 AM   #4
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Just goes to show, the only way you can fix stupid is with a baseball bat. As I say frequently, if brains were gasoline, some folks couldn't run a p*ss-ant's go-kart two laps around a dadgum Cheerio.
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Old 10-06-2020, 10:17 AM   #5
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Eventually they chop the roof and sides off.
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Again, you can't fix stupid without a baseball bat.

Anyone want to wager this was a 3126 with an MD-3060 or 2000 and air brakes?
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Old 10-06-2020, 04:05 PM   #7
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Hmm, the cars being lynched in the trees gave it a bit of a creepy context. Is this rural PA
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Old 10-06-2020, 05:09 PM   #8
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Hmm, the cars being lynched in the trees gave it a bit of a creepy context. Is this rural PA
Kind of reminds me of rural northern Georgia or the boothill of Missouri.
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Old 10-07-2020, 03:21 AM   #9
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Again, you can't fix stupid without a baseball bat.

Anyone want to wager this was a 3126 with an MD-3060 or 2000 and air brakes?
They said it was a 3126 in the video. The shifter style says it was an AT2000.
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Funny thing, the first thing they do is remove the exhaust. The first thing I did was instll one!


Name for the bus ... "Poor thang!"
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They said it was a 3126 in the video. The shifter style says it was an AT2000.
I would gladly have traded them my old gasser B700 for that rig... Brake system was junk so it was no big loss.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:11 AM   #12
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Anyone want to wager this was a 3126 with an MD-3060 or 2000 and air brakes?
Low roof model so it most likely had AT545 (if pre 2001) and high chance of hydraulic brakes.
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Next time someone asks me why i bought a bus instead of an RV i may show them this video just to display how tough buses are built. Let's see you do that with a $200,000 RV.
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Funny thing, the first thing they do is remove the exhaust. The first thing I did was instll one!


Name for the bus ... "Poor thang!"



I straight piped my 444E.. best thing I ever did.. gonna do the same thing to my DTA360. as its exhaust is startign to need attention
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im thinking true dual exhausts with flow 40s for my Superior
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Low roof model so it most likely had AT545 (if pre 2001) and high chance of hydraulic brakes.
I've never seen where low roof model had anything to do with transmission. That's pretty much dependent on how the bus is ordered. These are built on incomplete chassis from Freightliner, Navistar, etc., so it should pretty much come down to what the chassis comes with unless it was special ordered. Doesn't seem anyone would special-order a low-roof-height model, so I would think those could come with pretty much anything.

As for the kids doing this...

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Old 10-10-2020, 04:44 PM   #17
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I've never seen where low roof model had anything to do with transmission. That's pretty much dependent on how the bus is ordered. These are built on incomplete chassis from Freightliner, Navistar, etc., so it should pretty much come down to what the chassis comes with unless it was special ordered. Doesn't seem anyone would special-order a low-roof-height model, so I would think those could come with pretty much anything.

it doesnt directly however low roof was cheaper so if a school went cheap on a bus they would go with cheaper trans, cheaper brake system. (unless a school spec dictates brake type)...
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it doesnt directly however low roof was cheaper so if a school went cheap on a bus they would go with cheaper trans, cheaper brake system. (unless a school spec dictates brake type)...
I get what you're saying. However... for the most part, the incomplete chassis are ordered from the manufacturer before a customer ever orders a bus... I'm not sure they even know which district is going to get a particular chassis before they order it. The coachwork builder could care less what engine and trans are put in one, I believe, therefore they are generally taking delivery of whatever is next off the assembly line that meets their wheelbase and GVWR requirement. Which means the school doesn't usually dictate how the bus comes unless it's special-order. The incomplete chassis manufacturer isn't necessarily going to put AT545s in everything unless otherwise instructed. Of course, an incomplete chassis is sort of a special-order in and of itself. But I'm still not sure the mechanicals are going to be dictated by roof height. Certain parts of the country might be more inclined to order a beefy engine and trans over increased roof height. I know I would.
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not in the orders ive been involved with.. the school specs the bus from head to toe.. they dont just accept any chassis.. those chassis are ordered and shipped to the coach builder per bus. i sure would be an unhappy school if i wanted a thomas 3800 with an MT643 and a DT466. and got a AT545 and a 6.9 IDI........


and the brakes are on the chassis.. some schools mandate only hydraulic brakes so they dont have to get air brake endorsements for their drivers. so they would be quited ticked if they ended up with an air brake bus because the next chassis in the assembly line was air brake..
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not in the orders ive been involved with.. the school specs the bus from head to toe.. they dont just accept any chassis.. those chassis are ordered and shipped to the coach builder per bus. i sure would be an unhappy school if i wanted a thomas 3800 with an MT643 and a DT466. and got a AT545 and a 6.9 IDI........


and the brakes are on the chassis.. some schools mandate only hydraulic brakes so they dont have to get air brake endorsements for their drivers. so they would be quited ticked if they ended up with an air brake bus because the next chassis in the assembly line was air brake..
That much I get. However, I believe most districts are not that picky. You understand, of course, I grew up in the country where a 366 gasser and 4-speed Spicer with hydraulic brakes did the job for years.

And most districts will be limited by low budget, so I don't see custom orders being that common of a thing. Roof height, however, does not dictate mechanicals. My 89 Ford was a low-roof height and had the 429 gasser, something you just didn't see in the Ford-chassis buses back then. It also had hydraulic brakes.

I've also seen a high-roof Ford with a 370, auto trans and air brakes. So mechanicals have nothing to do with the roof height, which is my point.
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