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04-30-2020, 07:36 AM
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#21
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: North Georgia right below Chattanooga TN
Posts: 26
Year: 1998
Chassis: Amtran RE T444E
Engine: 7.3
Rated Cap: 72
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Thanks for the info, I will do that test for you today and post the results. By the way, is there any way you can email me a copy of that manual for future reference? Much appreciated. Talk soon.
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"If you can't take the heat...Don't poke the Dragon"
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05-01-2020, 10:02 AM
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#22
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirdave
Thanks for the info, I will do that test for you today and post the results. By the way, is there any way you can email me a copy of that manual for future reference? Much appreciated. Talk soon.
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Thanks for agreeing to do the test. I was curious to know if that diode curcuit, which is basically what helps control / regulate the front and rear start switch capabilities, has anything to do at all with a dark push pad panel / no start scenario.
Like I said before, how you found that burnt diode.... awesome work!
As far as copying the service manual, I thought about it many times but it is just too many pages and I have a very cheap one page scanner.
I think it would serve us all best if I just upload / post needed sections of the manual. You can then download to a flash drive for later referencing.
On the flip side of that, while time permits, I don't mind looking things up and sharing them. It helps you and it helps me better understand what is going on with my bus, just incase of a roadside trouble that is...
This is what the manual looks like..
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05-28-2020, 05:38 PM
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#23
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Midwest
Posts: 24
Year: 01'
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International RE3000
Engine: DT466E / MD3060
Rated Cap: 84ish?
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I'm not gonna lie, that's a good looking service manual! lol
I've been searching for a digital manual on our bus with no luck since we got it. We own a 01' IC RE300 with an AmTran DT466E Badge on the rear. It also has a MD3060. I've been struggling to find the info i'm searching for, and I'm wanting to get to know my bus a little better especially in the rear end! Much to learn!
I called Navistar searching for a engine manual they told me the International dealer should be able to provide me with any manuals free since I'm the owner. The nearest dealers I called were unable to help but took a message. Then I called one out of state that said it's all digital now and the engine manual is near $500 and the body manual is another $500. That seems a bit much for me so I'm searching the internet and may check out torrents. Also trying to see if International OnCommand would be a financially reasonable option. ewo1 I may be asking of your assistance in the near future!
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08-27-2020, 05:35 PM
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#24
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Amtran dash cluster - SERVICE MANUAL
I got a request today via PM for this so I scanned it, here it is.
This covers alot of info, removal and install of the cluster, speedo & tach failure diagnostics too!
Enjoy!
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08-27-2020, 05:47 PM
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#25
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Here is another one, heater and accessories service manual info.
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11-04-2020, 09:32 AM
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#26
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 1
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Hi,
Im, Kyle. I bought a 2002 Amtran International FE 3000. I got tigger happy went deleting wires and my window wipers, Window heater, motor to control the side mirrors, Boost Pump(for the coolant circulation) ect. I got the wipers working. The bus does run but I'm worried that I cut something that might regulate a full pump or Air brakes etc. Any ideas on how to test what has power and what does not? I have found some wires but not all of the number correspond with the wire list provided.
HELP
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11-04-2020, 04:28 PM
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#27
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K1990
Hi,
Im, Kyle. I bought a 2002 Amtran International FE 3000. I got tigger happy went deleting wires and my window wipers, Window heater, motor to control the side mirrors, Boost Pump(for the coolant circulation) ect. I got the wipers working. The bus does run but I'm worried that I cut something that might regulate a full pump or Air brakes etc. Any ideas on how to test what has power and what does not? I have found some wires but not all of the number correspond with the wire list provided.
HELP
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Here is the circuit diagrams for the mirror heaters, heater boost pump, step heater and defroster, drivers heater and rear underseat heater.
For right now don't worry about fuel pump regulation or air brakes...
Once you start the bus I would hold on to the wires you were just working on to see if anything starts to get warm/hot.
Mildly warm might be ok but HOT...No way!!! needs to be checked!
Hope this helps you move forward.
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03-16-2021, 02:24 AM
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#28
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 1
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Thanks so much for taking the time to post these diagrams. Incredibly helpful in my quest to sus out non-functional marker lights... they apparently run through the steps lights.
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03-16-2021, 07:40 AM
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#29
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris moyles
Thanks so much for taking the time to post these diagrams. Incredibly helpful in my quest to sus out non-functional marker lights... they apparently run through the steps lights.
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You are very welcome, glad I can help!
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03-18-2021, 02:48 PM
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#30
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Mirror heater and windshield wiper circuit diagram
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05-24-2021, 05:24 PM
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#31
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Tampa
Posts: 2
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 30,000
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ewo1: I truly appreciate your efforts to provide all of this info. Thanks!
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05-24-2021, 05:27 PM
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#32
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuddyTheMutt
ewo1: I truly appreciate your efforts to provide all of this info. Thanks!
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Anytime, glad I could contribute!
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05-30-2021, 07:19 PM
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#33
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Ridgefield, WA
Posts: 13
Year: 1999
Engine: T444E
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Thank you.
My wife and i just started working on this project.
This is exactly what i have been looking for.
Thanks
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08-16-2021, 09:19 AM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Idaho
Posts: 19
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt466
Rated Cap: 77 souls
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This is pure gold.
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12-28-2021, 09:24 AM
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#35
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Electrical Trouble shooting guide
Here is the section of the manual that discusses/teaches electrical troubleshooting.
Towards the end it talks about the Weldon Flasher circuit.
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12-28-2021, 09:41 AM
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#36
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Fuses & Circuit Breakers & Diagrams
This chapter of the manual covers in detail Fuses and Circuit breakers.
1000-4000, 7000, 8000
Circuit Diagrams included: - Table of Contents
Circuit diagram index
Circuit diagram instructions
Schematic Symbol Chart
Circuit diagrams
Connector body composite
Fuse block Connection
Connector body (mating end views)
Lamp bulb chart
Body Builder Electrical Connection Data
Fuse, Circuit Breaker and Switch Chart
Circuit identification chart
Relay pinout and function data
Acronyms and Descriptions
CIRCUIT DIAGRAM INDEX
12 volt power distribution
Cab Accessories
Engine systems (T444e)
Gauges (t444e)
Warning Lights
Chassis Accessories
Light systems
Electronic Engines (T444e)
This doc is a definite MUST SAVE !
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12-28-2021, 10:00 AM
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#37
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Idaho
Posts: 19
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt466
Rated Cap: 77 souls
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Thanks for the share ewo1.
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12-28-2021, 10:36 AM
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#38
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 1,990
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 88peterbuilt
Thanks for the share ewo1.
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glad I can help!
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04-23-2022, 04:53 PM
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#39
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 1
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Exterior Light Monitor
Looking for a diagram or photo of the exterior light monitor on my 1999 Am Tran / International
(The photo of how I have the wires hooked up is absolutely worng.)
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04-23-2022, 06:44 PM
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#40
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Idaho
Posts: 19
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt466
Rated Cap: 77 souls
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My connectors are completely different.
What I wound up doing takes a bit of time and a second person.
I bought new weather pack connectors. So I found my brake, turn and running lights via a test light.
Then I used my power probe to send power to the other wires until I found the correct wires that powered the brake, turn and run lights.
A second person who can verify which lights are on when you power them is necessary.
I bought the weather pack connectors and the tool to crimp them off Amazon. There are several tutorials on crimping the weather pack connectors on YouTube. I highly recommend using dialectic grease on the wires before you slide them into the connectors. Crimp the metal part on, apply the grease, then insert into the connector housing.
If you have any questions hit me up.
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