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Old 12-01-2018, 04:42 PM   #1
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AMTRAN RE Electrical Diagrams

When I bought my bus I was lucky enough to have been gifted the service manual for my AMTRAN RE bus.

My bus is a 1999.

I have scanned some of the electrical diagrams from the service manual and am uploading here to share with you all.

The corresponding page numbers are the actual page numbers of the service manual.

Hope somewhere down the line it helps someone in their bus build.

I will post first pictures of the main schematic diagrams because I have a very simple one page scanner and it was too big to fit.

So you will find first the picture and then two PDF pages, left and right side, of the schematic in the picture.

Enjoy!
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File Type: pdf Electrical schematic page 65-31 - left page.pdf (933.9 KB, 101 views)
File Type: pdf Electrical schematic pg 65-31 - right page.pdf (821.2 KB, 70 views)
File Type: pdf Electrical schematic pg 65-32 - left page.pdf (787.4 KB, 73 views)
File Type: pdf Electrical schematic pg 65-32 - right page.pdf (558.8 KB, 66 views)
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:48 PM   #2
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More electrical Diagrams !

Here are some more diagrams for you!

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File Type: pdf wiring junction locations pg 65-33.pdf (818.9 KB, 67 views)
File Type: pdf master wire list pg 65-34.pdf (1.37 MB, 67 views)
File Type: pdf master wire list pg 65-35.pdf (1.10 MB, 55 views)
File Type: pdf Electrical symbols chart pg 65-36.pdf (781.9 KB, 41 views)
File Type: pdf Fuse chart pg 65-37.pdf (598.2 KB, 67 views)
File Type: pdf power distribution ckt pg 65-38.pdf (677.3 KB, 49 views)
File Type: pdf front & rear buzzer pg 65-39.pdf (653.0 KB, 40 views)
File Type: pdf brake lights ckt pg 65-40.pdf (609.6 KB, 43 views)
File Type: pdf Backup lights ckt pg-65-41.pdf (576.2 KB, 35 views)
File Type: pdf Tail park light ckt pg 65-42.pdf (719.5 KB, 33 views)
File Type: pdf Left turn signal pg 65-43.pdf (640.4 KB, 35 views)
File Type: pdf Right turn signal ckt pg 65-44.pdf (666.5 KB, 32 views)
File Type: pdf Cluster-clearance lights ckt pg 65-45.pdf (759.0 KB, 39 views)
File Type: pdf Headlight ckt pg 65-46.pdf (622.4 KB, 36 views)
File Type: pdf switch panel illumination pg 65-47.pdf (566.1 KB, 42 views)
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:14 AM   #3
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Adding 2 more circuit diagrams covering window and hatch buzzer circuits.
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File Type: pdf Push out window ckt pg 65-53.pdf (690.1 KB, 33 views)
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:52 AM   #4
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Thanks im sure this will come in handy later on. I also have a 1999 AmTram with a DT466E, AT545. Im looking to figue out about weather or not to keep trans
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Old 12-16-2018, 09:22 AM   #5
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Thanks im sure this will come in handy later on. I also have a 1999 AmTram with a DT466E, AT545. Im looking to figue out about weather or not to keep trans

alot has to do with what your travel plans are and how heavy you will be. running loaded down and towing a trailer or car over hilly terrain will quiite possibly spell the end of that transmission..



at the very least you'll want to put a nice big cooler on it.. no doubt there are better transmissions out there... however there are a lot of people running 545s in their busses as well.. to me, the biggest successes have been with those not running heavy busses or towing large weight.. and not trying to win speed records by running flat out.. taking it easy will increase the longevity of that transmission..



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Old 12-16-2018, 10:52 AM   #6
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Wow. Just wow
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Old 01-09-2019, 03:05 PM   #7
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Do you have a diagram for the vandalock in that book?
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:22 PM   #8
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I went thru the entire book, looked at most of the diagrams, could not find anything that referenced "Vandalock" within the manual.

Checked my bus, don't have a vandalock.

I did though find a few threads that talk about it here using the search button but nothing specific to an Amtran.

sorry....
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Old 07-06-2019, 03:49 PM   #9
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This is an amazing trove of info. Thank you!

One question though, as I have a 1997 Genesis FE. Anyone know how much the electrical system differed between FE/RE, and possibly how much it changed between those two years?

Thanks again!

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Old 07-06-2019, 04:22 PM   #10
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I also have a 99 Amtran. I can take a picture of the wiring diagram thatís on the door if that would be helpful.
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:18 AM   #11
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:00 PM   #12
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Hi everyone,
I have a 2002 international Amtran RE and I had recently added a second stop arm in the rear of the bus. I simply connected the lights and motor directly to the front stop arm and it worked flawlessly. While wiring the back stop arm in a more sturdy and permanent fashion I actually crossed a positive wire with a ground, there was a loud pop in the front of the bus(I'm assuming from the fuse panel) and now the motors for both front and rear stop arms and even the crossing gate now do not engage. They are all electrically operated, not air operated. The lights on the stop arms still work which leads me to believe that when the wires crossed that it blew a fuse. I've looked many spots but I'm not able to find a fuse for the stop arm or crossing gate, or really any fuses at all for that matter.

Can anyone direct me to where those fuses may be located? From reading my issue, could there be any other solution other than a blown fuse? Any other suggestions?

Thank you in advance!
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:47 AM   #13
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This should come in very handy for my 2000 AmTran
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Old 03-05-2020, 04:31 PM   #14
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Door wiring diagram 99 Amtran

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I also have a 99 Amtran. I can take a picture of the wiring diagram thatís on the door if that would be helpful.

Could you send me the door wiring diagram to my email: y2kdejesus@yahoo.com I have the same bus type but no diagram on door. Thanks
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Hi everyone,
I have a 2002 international Amtran RE and I had recently added a second stop arm in the rear of the bus. I simply connected the lights and motor directly to the front stop arm and it worked flawlessly. While wiring the back stop arm in a more sturdy and permanent fashion I actually crossed a positive wire with a ground, there was a loud pop in the front of the bus(I'm assuming from the fuse panel) and now the motors for both front and rear stop arms and even the crossing gate now do not engage. They are all electrically operated, not air operated. The lights on the stop arms still work which leads me to believe that when the wires crossed that it blew a fuse. I've looked many spots but I'm not able to find a fuse for the stop arm or crossing gate, or really any fuses at all for that matter.

Can anyone direct me to where those fuses may be located? From reading my issue, could there be any other solution other than a blown fuse? Any other suggestions?

Thank you in advance!
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On my 99 the panel is on the outside under the drivers window. It's more circuit breakers than fuses.
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Old 03-06-2020, 08:44 AM   #16
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Could you send me the door wiring diagram to my email: y2kdejesus@yahoo.com I have the same bus type but no diagram on door. Thanks

Here is a pic of the "door" wiring under the drivers window.

The wiring diagram is labeled 441550002 w/master disconnect.

hope it helps you out!
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Old 03-06-2020, 09:23 AM   #17
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Wow, that all looks familiar! Thanks!
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Old 04-28-2020, 07:39 AM   #18
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Diode Pack in rear electrical center

Hello all, I have a 1998 Amtran RE, and I have a connector in the rear electrical panel with 2 diodes attached to it. One of the diodes is burnt, and it wont start unless I jump over that diode. Does anyone have the schematic relative to this and the ignition system. I have looked through the uploaded schematics on this thread and don't see any ignition schematics(thanks for the uploads, by the way) I need to know where those diodes go or come from. Thanks for the help. Here's a picture of the diodes
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Old 04-28-2020, 07:47 AM   #19
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Hello all, I have a 1998 Amtran RE, and I have a connector in the rear electrical panel with 2 diodes attached to it. One of the diodes is burnt, and it wont start unless I jump over that diode. Does anyone have the schematic relative to this and the ignition system. I have looked through the uploaded schematics on this thread and don't see any ignition schematics(thanks for the uploads, by the way) I need to know where those diodes go or come from. Thanks for the help. Here's a picture of the diodes

Nice catch, to find a bad diode that is!
Diodes are easy to test using a ohm meter!

Those diodes should have a number imprinted on them. If there are two, then most likely they will be the same.
Check to see what numbers they have on them.

I'll be happy to look at the service manual I have and upload the diagram, if I have it that is. I got to be on the road today so I won't be able to look for it till this evening.

Is this connection part of the "VIM" big black box with the rear key switch start in the rear engine compartment?

Can you upload a picture with more background detail of the connection/area in question.

Also, do those red wires with the diodes, do they numbers on the wires themselves? This might help me identify the circuit.

Thanks

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Old 04-29-2020, 09:56 AM   #20
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Hello all, I have a 1998 Amtran RE, and I have a connector in the rear electrical panel with 2 diodes attached to it. One of the diodes is burnt, and it wont start unless I jump over that diode. Does anyone have the schematic relative to this and the ignition system. I have looked through the uploaded schematics on this thread and don't see any ignition schematics(thanks for the uploads, by the way) I need to know where those diodes go or come from. Thanks for the help. Here's a picture of the diodes

Looking thru the service manual I think I found the connector/circuit in question.

The diodes appear to be simple low voltage diodes, probably something like a 1n4006 ??? Look at the numbers on the other diode. Since their are no more radio shacks, I would try to find a tv repair place, if they still exist, they would have them for sure. Very common diode.

If not, then order from Newark electronics.

Having that solid wire there in place for testing purposes is ok but I would without fail, replace it with a diode. The purpose of that diode in the circuit appear to be to prevent a backfeed to the adjacent circuit.

I uploaded the diagram, 3 pages in total. You will see the diode circuit on page 1, along the right page edge, middle of page edge.

Again, that was a real nice catch finding that burnt diode. I have been in my control box several times and the way that diode assembly was tucked in there, never would have found it in a million years!

Now I have a favor to ask of you.
Do you have a push pad tranny?
If so can you do a test for me?

Pull out that jumper wire, no diode in place, and just turn the key switch to the "On" position, not start!

What I want to know is if the tranny push pad is either lit or is it dark with out that diode/jumper wire in place.

This might be very helpful to other who have a no start and dead push pad.

thanks, good luck and keep us posted.

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