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07-28-2018, 04:21 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: MO
Posts: 199
Year: 1978
Engine: Detroit 6-71
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Electrical, light will not work in engine bay
Hi, below I've attached a picture. There is a light that has a switch inside the engine bay if you need a light while working in there. The problem is when I flip the switch the light won't turn on, the bulb is fine and I've tested this however after testing the voltage I've found out that the left side of the little fuse looking thing it's hooked up to reads 12v but the right side doesn't read voltage which is where the wire is connected too, not sure why this is hooked up to this fuse or breaker looking thing, I've tried to see if it works with bus keys in etc but no luck, do you guys think it's this fuse (if it is a fuse) I've included a picture for reference.
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07-28-2018, 04:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,154
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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Try checking across the toggle switch.
Or just straight wire around the switch straight to the bulb.
A lot of the older 1156 and 57 bulbs will test good out.
Clean in the socket with a plumber's wire brush and sand/clean the outside of the bulb socket portion.
Pull the light base and clean around the mounting surfaces because that is what grounds the light to the bus body.
Good luck
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07-28-2018, 04:58 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Did you check it while it was hanging like that? The metal light housing may need to be grounded to the body.
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07-28-2018, 05:13 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,154
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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The light base is still mounted it's just the cover hanging.
That's why I recommend pulling and cleaning the light mounting base.
What I didn't mention is the screws and screw holes are important because they are the true and snug body grounds.
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07-28-2018, 05:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2018
Location: topeka kansas
Posts: 1,818
Year: 1954
Coachwork: wayne
Chassis: old f500- new 2005 f-450
Engine: cummins 12 valve
Rated Cap: 20? five rows of 4?
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the fuse looking thing
that thing is a circuit breaker... do this test... take a piece of wire and wrap on one post of the breaker to the other side, this is a temporary bypass of the breaker.... try you light now. if it works then it is the fuse.
the deep part of the socket should be 12v the sides of the socket should be ground. you are on the right track follow along till you get 12v inside the socket..... when you can do that the bulb should light IF the outer part of the bulb socket is grounded to -12v
test this and go from there.
william
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07-28-2018, 06:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
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That is definitely one dirty looking circuit breaker with connections that are really corroded too. Clean all that up then have a look at the base plate for the light. That area is corroded all to heck too so doesn't surprise me the light doesn't work
If you have a dremel type tool use a sandpaper type bit to clean the metal connections so they shine like new again. Same for area under the base plate.
John
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07-28-2018, 09:11 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackJohn
That is definitely one dirty looking circuit breaker with connections that are really corroded too. Clean all that up then have a look at the base plate for the light. That area is corroded all to heck too so doesn't surprise me the light doesn't work
If you have a dremel type tool use a sandpaper type bit to clean the metal connections so they shine like new again. Same for area under the base plate.
John
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For those using dremel rotary tools: take a 1/4" long shank bolt cut off the head then cut a slot down center of bolt with a hacksaw about an inch long. Rip a strip if emery cloth and insert it in the slot let it wrap around the shank as the dremel turns it. Insert in hole and sand away! I use this to clean bushings and fit bushings to shafts. Works great but keep the tool speed down.
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07-28-2018, 09:26 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by golfersmurf57
For those using dremel rotary tools: take a 1/4" long shank bolt cut off the head then cut a slot down center of bolt with a hacksaw about an inch long. Rip a strip if emery cloth and insert it in the slot let it wrap around the shank as the dremel turns it. Insert in hole and sand away! I use this to clean bushings and fit bushings to shafts. Works great but keep the tool speed down.
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Good suggestion smurf..fun work and then to see the results
John
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07-30-2018, 07:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackJohn
Good suggestion smurf..fun work and then to see the results
John
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Thanks John. Harbor Freight has 2" rolls for about $9 - I tear it down the middle.
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07-31-2018, 12:06 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Port angeles, Wa
Posts: 326
Year: 90
Coachwork: bluebird conventional
Chassis: international
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 72
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There is a possibility the light only works with the running or clearance lites on. Mine works that way.
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08-03-2018, 03:14 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 386
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawlings
Hi, below I've attached a picture. There is a light that has a switch inside the engine bay if you need a light while working in there. The problem is when I flip the switch the light won't turn on, the bulb is fine and I've tested this however after testing the voltage I've found out that the left side of the little fuse looking thing it's hooked up to reads 12v but the right side doesn't read voltage which is where the wire is connected too, not sure why this is hooked up to this fuse or breaker looking thing, I've tried to see if it works with bus keys in etc but no luck, do you guys think it's this fuse (if it is a fuse) I've included a picture for reference.
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Here's a $20 solution. Advance auto- new mountable lamp assy. - new toggle switch - mount both and wire it up. Flip switch and voila!!
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