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Old 03-05-2022, 02:41 PM   #21
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I will be using US Energy 5mm Reflective foam insulation. It has an aluminized surface on both sides. When the panels are installed they won't be noticeable on the roof of the bus. Given that the panel thickness of about 1/8" and 5mm thickness of the insulation, they won't have much effect on airflow over the bus. They also don't weigh as much as conventional solar panels.
Sounds a good plan. One I may copy. Looking though, for insulation that will repel nuclear fallout.

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Old 03-05-2022, 04:33 PM   #22
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Looking though, for insulation that will repel nuclear fallout.
Nuclear fallout will be "repelled" by the metal skin of the bus and the windows.

"Fallout" is the dust, debris, etc. that "falls out" of the atmosphere. Nuclear fallout is that stuff after a nuclear detonation and which will contain radioactive particles but those particles won't penetrate the metal skin of the bust. Most aren't hazardous except as ingestion and inhalation hazards.
Put a sprinkler system on the roof, wash the dust off, and drive out of the puddle before exiting.


Or, realize that in a post nuclear war situation...... YOU'RE DEAD, it's just a matter of how long and how painful that death will be. Yes, people survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki, some survived BOTH (talk about bad luck) and lived into their 90's at least. But those were TINY little pops compared to modern nuclear weapons and highly contained to just two cities. Post "apocalyptic" nuclear war, the human species will cease to exist.
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Old 03-05-2022, 04:47 PM   #23
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Nuclear fallout will be "repelled" by the metal skin of the bus and the windows.

"Fallout" is the dust, debris, etc. that "falls out" of the atmosphere. Nuclear fallout is that stuff after a nuclear detonation and which will contain radioactive particles but those particles won't penetrate the metal skin of the bust. Most aren't hazardous except as ingestion and inhalation hazards.
Put a sprinkler system on the roof, wash the dust off, and drive out of the puddle before exiting.


Or, realize that in a post nuclear war situation...... YOU'RE DEAD, it's just a matter of how long and how painful that death will be. Yes, people survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki, some survived BOTH (talk about bad luck) and lived into their 90's at least. But those were TINY little pops compared to modern nuclear weapons and highly contained to just two cities. Post "apocalyptic" nuclear war, the human species will cease to exist.
And here I was feeling depressed about the price of gas making my skoolie unusable.
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Old 03-05-2022, 05:04 PM   #24
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And here I was feeling depressed about the price of gas making my skoolie unusable.

The price of fuel will come back down. Hopefully you're burning diesel not gasoline.
The nuke thing made me laugh. I've been to Hiroshima. It was a mere 35 years after the bomb and I stood within 120 meters of ground zero (one display stated it was 120 meters away, I was probably much closer but don't remember). Anyway, it was a LARGE and thriving metropolis that took a couple of decades to get to that level of infrastructure so they were building on ground zero within 15 years.
I've seen, just a couple feet away, the "shadows" of humans on the stone works at the time of detonation. It makes one feel rather inconsequential.
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The price of fuel will come back down. Hopefully you're burning diesel not gasoline.
The nuke thing made me laugh. I've been to Hiroshima. It was a mere 35 years after the bomb and I stood within 120 meters of ground zero (one display stated it was 120 meters away, I was probably much closer but don't remember). Anyway, it was a LARGE and thriving metropolis that took a couple of decades to get to that level of infrastructure so they were building on ground zero within 15 years.
I've seen, just a couple feet away, the "shadows" of humans on the stone works at the time of detonation. It makes one feel rather inconsequential.
That's quite an experience. Aside from WTC, I've never been to a ground zero and never hope to be there. I do admire your optimism and hope it is congruent with reality. Russians could effect clouds of radiation worldwide if they fry those reactors in the Ukraine, but I think small and I'm just working on my bus.
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ham skoolie as an grunt i have been to all those places as well and the feelings of standing in some of them is we can only cary your legend forward.
and i will shut up now about what is going on.
texas marine that got out when the oil field was being plugged under clinton much less the bhudhapest agreement that took nukes away from ukraine and gave them to russia where we agreed to protect ukraine?
wtf? where are we?
our president denied a personal security company from giving the ukranian military fighter jets including worthogs in december.
imagine what convoy would look like if.
sorry i was supposed to shut up.
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ham skoolie as an grunt i have been to all those places as well and the feelings of standing in some of them is we can only cary your legend forward.

Not my legend.

My late father in law's legend.

He went to Navy basic training in Great Lakes for "a weekend a month and two weeks a year" (a reservist). One morning the trainers came out at announced that Japan had attacked Pearl and the Pacific Fleet and all reservists were "in for the duration".
His first two ships were sunk out from under him. His third was torpedoed and he went in the water with the abandon ship call....though they ended up saving the ship (Even though it was torpedoed while under tow the next day). When the second one was torpedoed he spent two weeks on an enemy held island before being picked up at night. They wrote a book about that ship "The USS Helena, fightnest ship in the Navy". There's a passage in there about the survivors of the sinking making for unseen land under the command of Captain Cecil using Ships boats and inflatable life rafts towed by the boats. One boat ran out of fuel and they towed that....they made it to land and couldn't get the boats over the reefs so they had to wade ashore being carried by those who still had their boots or shredding their feet..... I read all this after my father in laws passing...... but I knew the story, from his lips..... he was in Captain Cecil's boat.
Stuff that makes you sit silently in awe.


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Sounds a good plan. One I may copy. Looking though, for insulation that will repel nuclear fallout.

Mass & density are the factors that impact absorption of high-frequency radiation. Effective thermal insulation has neither. Unless you want to line your walls with lead or turn your bus interior into one big concrete form, there's pretty much nothing you can add that will have any significant impact on fallout. Circa-60s civil defense docs used to recommend multiple feet of wet newspapers lining the walls & ceiling of expedient shelters. Think I'd rather die of radiation than the mold that would result doing that in a bus. If you're willing to bury your bus under a few feet of moist soil, that might be doable. But that brings up other complications.
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