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08-19-2019, 04:38 PM
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#21
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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08-19-2019, 05:24 PM
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#22
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceni John
If you use sealed-beam lights, at least run them through relays to assure they get full voltage, and make sure they are properly aimed to minimize scatter and glare. One easy way to know if your lights will dazzle other drivers is to crouch down in front of them and see exactly where their vertical cutoff is - it should always be lower than a typical car's driver head height.
John
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I drive up to within a few feet of a wall and turn on the lights - then I align them straight ahead and adjust them for up and down - it doesn't work as well as a shop with precision equipment, but on a good day, I come close
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08-20-2019, 01:00 PM
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#23
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
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Those are the same basic ones i posted on post 11. They work great. on low beam they have a nice low pattern that angles up on the right for road signs.
with nice sharp cut off.
On high it all down the road. like high beams should be.
I run Sylvania silver star bulbs and they work quite well.
These will Need to be adjusted correctly.
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08-20-2019, 02:17 PM
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#24
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekanic
Those are the same basic ones i posted on post 11. They work great. on low beam they have a nice low pattern that angles up on the right for road signs.
with nice sharp cut off.
On high it all down the road. like high beams should be.
I run Sylvania silver star bulbs and they work quite well.
These will Need to be adjusted correctly.
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Sound like a fair deal till you realize they don't come with bulbs. They are not sealed beams as advertised.
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08-20-2019, 03:14 PM
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#25
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Sound like a fair deal till you realize they don't come with bulbs. They are not sealed beams as advertised.
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Better than sealed beams as most of the time you can remove the H4 or whatever bulb they take without removing the entire headlamp, thus eliminating alignment checking...
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08-20-2019, 06:50 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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this is the set im using on my DEV bus now..
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
they light up the road nicely and have a definite cutoff pattern..
-Christopher
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08-20-2019, 07:00 PM
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#27
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
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I have 4 of those but in a 7" round light. Planned on 2 of them on the front for driving lights and 2 in the rear for back up. But they have so many lights in them I'm not sure they are good for much more than driving lights.
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08-20-2019, 07:11 PM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,897
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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marc these arent the multi-row 15 LED lights.. that what I HAD previously. and those were only good for driving floods at best... THESE have a very definite pattern on the street as well as a cutoff.. they can be focused nicely.. the high beams are pretty damn bright too and of course they sail the light much farther and wider as well..
the low beams are easy to focus mainly in your lane with a bit of low spread-off for seeing animals or objects alongside the road and not blind other drivers..
-Christopher
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08-21-2019, 05:34 PM
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#29
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 271
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Buy quality DOT approved LEDs. I’dGuess most of the non DOT LEDS ARE FOR
OFF ROAD. - read the fine print.
Lots of quality LEDs on Amazon- but don’t buy the first ones you see. Take the time and research them.
I just bought 5x7’s DOT approved for $85.
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08-21-2019, 06:05 PM
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#30
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: wa
Posts: 11
Year: 1999
Chassis: bluebird intl 3800
Engine: t444e
Rated Cap: 7.3l
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Beamshots of aforementioned cheap leds from Amazon
Full-timer here. Use amazon for fast shipping as we usually don't know where we'll be in a week. Replaced the stock incandescents with the standard $40 cheap leds last October. Definitely an improvement and worth the $ imo
Reused the rusted housing scraps (flakes?) thx to some pb blaster.
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08-21-2019, 06:30 PM
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#31
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Site Team
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia
Posts: 447
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Daniel Stern and Susquehanna Motorsports (rallylights.com) are both excellent sources of high quality parts AND advice. I’ve used both in the past, and they are my go-to sources for all things lighting. Absolutely top-notch vendors.
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08-22-2019, 02:05 PM
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#32
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New Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 8
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Truck-lites are one of the best on the market for LED headlamps. Yes they are a little bit pricey, but you pay for quality. They come heated (for snow climates) or non-heated. Coming from the Jeep community, I have used these in the past and throw an amazing amount of light but are not super blinding. High quality company enough that one of our local trash companies swapped out all their garbage trucks with the heated versions.
Truck-lite dot com
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08-22-2019, 02:52 PM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,030
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
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Would these be drop-in replacements for the headlights in my bus, or would have I to finagle them a bit to get them to fit? I don't feel like dealing with my light situation yet (one is out and half-flooded and the other gives off pretty much a candle glow) but that's limiting me to daytime driving only right now.
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01-30-2021, 05:05 PM
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#35
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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i will not replace my incandescent lites with leds as i have them on my truck and they suck. they freeze over in as little as 10 minutes and i pull my truck over on a ramp to clean them too often
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01-30-2021, 05:13 PM
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#36
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Near Flagstaff AZ
Posts: 1,951
Year: 1974
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: "Atomic"
Engine: DD 8V71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
Attachment 53543i will not replace my incandescent lites with leds as i have them on my truck and they suck. they freeze over in as little as 10 minutes and i pull my truck over on a ramp to clean them too often
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I'm not trying to talk you into LEDs...but if you like them, except for the freezing issue, you should check out the Truck-Lite headlights...they have heated versions which are really good quality and stay ice/snow free. Yes, I'm in Arizona, but were I am in the mountains we do get snow. We've had about 3 feet in the past week. I put Truck-Lite headlights in a FL60 and love them. Having said that, I'm not an LED fanatic. I find that regular incandescent spots, like the old-school KCs let me see better than those fancy LED bars and all...I just don't seem to have the same depth perception or something with LED light. But the Truck-Lites are head and shoulders better than the stock headlamps which came on our FL60.
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01-30-2021, 07:31 PM
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#37
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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Led headlamps also do not reflect in the eyes of deer and other critters. I hit them too often so now i run a full sized front gaurd
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02-03-2021, 07:41 PM
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#38
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,488
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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I have been using Hella E-code lights H-1 and H-4 for 30+ years and think you can't get better lighting. Some of mine have been through 4-5 cars / trucks. I always use relays. I also have a pair of Hella rally 1000's on the bus now for spot beams like KC's. I can watch the deer and the antelope play a half mile away. My newer cars with the plastic crap lights work good for about 2-3 years and the NM sun turns them yellow and cloudy. Just my .02
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02-14-2021, 08:35 PM
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#39
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s2mikon
I have been using Hella E-code lights H-1 and H-4 for 30+ years and think you can't get better lighting. Some of mine have been through 4-5 cars / trucks. I always use relays. I also have a pair of Hella rally 1000's on the bus now for spot beams like KC's. I can watch the deer and the antelope play a half mile away. My newer cars with the plastic crap lights work good for about 2-3 years and the NM sun turns them yellow and cloudy. Just my .02
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I pulled off my crossover mirrors on our 5 window Chevy e3500 and plan on mounting something like the Hella rally 1000 on each side of the motor using the existing mounts.
Not a fan of night driving (mainly because of deer 🦌 and also missing the entire countryside) but having some powerful lights would make it more tolerable.
I remember driving a new Prius with new LED lights across Montana and the lights were freaking bright on hi beams. Compared to my car at least.
Bulbs also get dimmer over time right? So even just replacing with newer brighter may help? It's not like we drive as many miles as commercial drivers
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02-15-2021, 11:43 AM
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#40
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Huntington Beach CA.
Posts: 939
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: T/C 2000 28 foot Handy Bus
Engine: Cummins 5.9 Mechanical
Rated Cap: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtdoctor
Buy quality DOT approved LEDs. I’dGuess most of the non DOT LEDS ARE FOR
OFF ROAD. - read the fine print.
Lots of quality LEDs on Amazon- but don’t buy the first ones you see. Take the time and research them.
I just bought 5x7’s DOT approved for $85.
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These are the ones that I bought from Amazon also DOT stamp right on them. They were $85.00 .
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I value Cadillac Kids opinions and he is happy with his LED lights so I think I will be happy with them also. Or, more importantly, other drivers will be happy also and not blinded. I replaced every single fixture with DOT except the two side marker turn signals on each side and I put LEDs in them also. Added a dozen more side marker lights and they are stamped DOT too. Am going to add a set of Ridgid DOT foglights as soon as our Tax refund hits Woo Hoo.
Also plan to install zombie lights on 4 corners of my bus but since they will not be used on the highway am not concerned about DOT ratings. Just want to be able to melt Zombies with the toggling of a switch.
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