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Old 02-11-2022, 05:46 AM   #1
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I'm wondering if in y'alls experience is there a better side for the shore power plug in to go? I'm thinking the drivers side but I'm not sold on it yet.

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there is an RV electric code that specifies where the location of the shore panel connection is expected on a a vehicle.

i don't remember the code or words exactly. electric code551? something like the sevice connetion shall be located on the drivers side rear 1/3 of the vehicle.

the entire rv electric code is about a 20 minute read and well worth your time.

mostly its pay site info, but you can find free version to read. NEC article 551....


just quick googling..."The point of entrance of a power supply assembly must meet specific requirements, which are detailed in 551.46(E). These include, for example, that it must be within 15 feet of the rear and to the left of the longitudinal center of the vehicle."
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Old 02-11-2022, 07:24 AM   #3
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Thank you for that. I had no idea. I’d love to purchase a copy of that.
Thanks for your time.
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Old 02-11-2022, 08:14 AM   #4
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Almost all campground power pedestals and water hookups are on the drivers side.
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Old 02-11-2022, 09:46 AM   #5
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just quick googling..."The point of entrance of a power supply assembly must meet specific requirements, which are detailed in 551.46(E). These include, for example, that it must be within 15 feet of the rear and to the left of the longitudinal center of the vehicle."

Aside from the common arrangement of RV hook-ups, do you or anyone else know if there's a practical (safety-based) reason for this requirement?
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Old 02-11-2022, 10:03 AM   #6
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As far as I can tell, it's tradition.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:08 PM   #7
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Huh. Seemingly by accident I got this "tradition" right for both the RV power inlet (and looks like the same for the sewer out based on other rigs/5th wheels I've seen).


It was just the most convenient place to put it...
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:13 PM   #8
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yup, Kaz. all the utilities seem to be on the driver's side. Power, water, and tank outlets. Campgrounds are set up for that.

Don't want drunk hillbillies tripping over the water hose when they come out the door on the passenger side.
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Old 02-11-2022, 05:18 PM   #9
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Put your electrical hook up where ever you want. There just isn't a "code" (with jurisdiction over RVs) anywhere in the US. There are all kinds of "best practice codes" which may be applied to RVs but they are really only recommendations. An example of one is RVIA-- Recreational Vehicle Industry Association -- a non governmental industry association that licenses and certifies it's member's products according to it's own criteria.

Here is a link to an article in RV Travel that adrsses this question better than I can:
https://www.rvtravel.com/rv-electric...find-out-here/.
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this is the NFPA.

these traditions are for the firefighters who show up to put out fires. if your rooftop a/c bursts into flames, they want to know where to look for the electrical disconnect for your unit.
the standard is for your safety.

NFPA 1192 says, rv's must be installed according to NFPA 70 article 551 sections 1-5.

the first reference was a portion of the nfpa70 article 551 section 1. the whole article 551 is good reading.

link to nfpa70https://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-stand...detail?code=70

find article 551 in there and have a look.

that mike sokol puts out a ton of great info....worth following if you see it.
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Old 02-12-2022, 06:02 AM   #11
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Nfpa 1192 & 1194

There is a National Fire Protection Association (NFPA)
code book specifically appying to RVs. Itís called NFPA 1192 Standard for RVs' Handbook.

There is another that details campgrounds called NFPA 1194 Standard for Recreational Vehicle Parks and Campgrounds.

Download NFPA1192 pdf here:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...HNh_jQUmZX_oVP

The RVIA (Recreational Vehicle Industry Association) requires that all manufacturers displaying the RVIA tag comply with NFPA 1192, which is basically electrical code for RVs. And because state and local jurisdictions donít have a specific code countermanding RV electrical code, then the NFPA Code supersedes anything you may find in NFPA 70 or even a local AHJ.
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these traditions are for the firefighters who show up to put out fires. if your rooftop a/c bursts into flames, they want to know where to look for the electrical disconnect for your unit.
the standard is for your safety.
Thank you. That's what I was looking for.
Think electrical outlet location was the one thing I didn't research in code.
Lucked out I guess, but the odds were in our favor w/ a 6-window bus
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Ah, but still only recommendations. Good recommendations probably but still only recommendations.
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Ah, but still only recommendations. Good recommendations probably but still only recommendations.
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Turf is 100% right. That's code. Remember to keep neutral bonded till it leaves bus. Bus is like a sub panel
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Turf is 100% right. That's code. Remember to keep neutral bonded till it leaves bus. Bus is like a sub panel
I'm guessing that statement about keeping neutral bonded was a typo?
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Yes typo , Been up 33 hrs now. Take bonding screws out ,keep neutral and ground seperated till out side of bus. Years ago friend had bus that when you grabbed door knob you'd feel a tingle. Separating ground an neutral fixed it.
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That's fine for shore power but when you are using your genny neutral and ground need to be tied together. The simple way to look at the bonding issue is that any stray electrons need to return to the source. If Ma Edison is supplying electricity then that is where the ground should be directed. If your genny is the source of electricity then that is where you want to bond neutral and ground so any stray electrons go back to the genny source. Jack
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I installed two 30A power inlets, one on the port side near the stern and one on the starboard side next to the door as a backup. I also have two shore water inlets, one on each side, and two gravity fills for the tanks, one on each side, so I never have to drag hoses or power cables under or around the bus. I even have a secondary 1.5" dump valve for the grey water tank on the right side just ahead of the rear wheels... Heck, if I could also have two engines I would: maybe I need to find an original Twin Coach.

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Neutral and ground are tied together in the generator. I have two female plugs in bus. One goes to land line the other to generator. Pick your source and plug in. Back when I got into converting buses automatic change over was way to expensive. Makes it impossible to plug into two sources at same time.
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