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Old 05-11-2020, 07:39 PM   #1
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Where to put main panel

Getting ready to layout the electrical. Is there a more common place that one would put the main panel for all the non engine running power? We have a 39.9ft Thomas 2000 model 8l Cummins.
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Old 05-11-2020, 08:00 PM   #2
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Getting ready to layout the electrical. Is there a more common place that one would put the main panel for all the non engine running power? We have a 39.9ft Thomas 2000 model 8l Cummins.

Are you referring to the main DC distribution panel / fuse block for the house battery bank?


If so, I don't have an actual answer for you, but I do have a recommendation. When choosing where to place this, consider voltage drop. The shorter the total length of your circuits (from battery to fuse block to device and back again) the better, this is especially relevant with high current (amps) low voltage circuits.
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You are correct, house power.
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It really depends on your layout, but generally utilities end up on the driver's side for camp site convenience. BTW, your bus sounds like a good one with the big Cummins.
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one thing to add to dzl_'s point.

if you're hoping to use the bus' alternator as a house battery charger while the engine's running, you'll want your batteries to be as close to the engine bay as you can get (this is also because of voltage drop).
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Yes it drives great. The California diesel particulate filter does seem to throttle the power. Any thoughts on removing or not removing?
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Looking at running a Tesla home battery as my storage.
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Looking at running a Tesla home battery as my storage.
How much floor space does that pack take up? Are you planning a utility closet/room? We have a 4 window workshop at the rear of ours so I put the batteries and all the sparky stuff back there. The only things in the living area are the remote displays and controls for the inverter/charger and solar controller.
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I have through compartments underneath to hold water tanks, fresh, grey, black. Going tankless water heater and have space to put propane tanks under front area between chassis rails just forward of fuel tank. So theoretically have room for that batter pack.
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Looking at running a Tesla home battery as my storage.

Not familiar with those. Is it essentially just a lithium battery (DC input/output) or is it intended to be more of an all-in-one plug and play unit in residential electrical systems (AC input and output)?
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Old 05-12-2020, 08:45 AM   #11
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Do you already have the Tesla Battery Wall Bank thing? I recall somewhere else on this forum that those aren't really feasible because a Tesla tech has to install it, and they won't install it on RVs or boats for liability reasons. Maybe you could pull it off the wall and put it in the bus anyway.
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I checked the specs, if you could get this in a skoolie that would be dope:


4 feet tall, 3 feet long, half a foot deep, 13.5kWh per box, water/dustproof, and only 250 pounds.


https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
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it's kinda hilarious that a car manufacturer wouldn't be imaginative enough to figure out how to combine this tech with the RV community. it's the perfect application.

and when you get home, you can plug the RV in and power your house!
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Tesla Cybertruck as a toad?

OK, so just dreaming here... If you buy a Tesla Cybertruck (in 2023-ish when tehy finally come out) with that giant 200kwh battery, you could drag it behind the bus, power your skoolie off-grid for weeks, and have a run-around car for those quick jaunts into town. You'd still need a smaller onboard house battery for while you're out playing, but not nearly Powerwall size.

I wonder if you could also build a good size house bank with used Nissan Leaf batteries.
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Old 05-20-2020, 05:33 PM   #15
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Looking at running a Tesla home battery as my storage.
While reading this thread, I was speaking with a rep from Tesla. They said they would not allow a powerwall except for on a house. I assume you were talking about the Tesla car battery, but I was just posting this in case anyone was thinking about the powerwall. Has anyone on here had either a Tesla battery or perhaps Nissan Leaf battery installed in their bus? I am several months away from starting my electrical/solar but it is never too early to start working on this stuff.
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Search for BroccoliBus on this forum. He has a sick ass Leaf battery. I think kazetsukaiís build has a Tesla car battery.
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Has anyone on here had either a Tesla battery or perhaps Nissan Leaf battery installed in their bus? I am several months away from starting my electrical/solar but it is never too early to start working on this stuff.
Kazetsukai was or is using used Tesla batteries. I believe he is transitioning to lifepo4 prismatic cells though.

I know I've seen at least one build that used nissan or chevy EV batteries. As a general rule these batteries are regarded as less beginner friendly and less forgiving than lifepo4 or lead acid.

Not that it can't be done safely, but the stakes are somewhat higher, and there is more responsibility on you to make sure its designed and implemented safely and correctly.
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it's kinda hilarious that a car manufacturer wouldn't be imaginative enough to figure out how to combine this tech with the RV community. it's the perfect application.

and when you get home, you can plug the RV in and power your house!

First time that I've heard someone say that Tesla was not an imaginative company
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