I want a normal toilet…

[Mattbzn]

Ok. Everyone seems to go with composting toilets. That’s fine. Some may even say admirable. But I’m not down.
I understand the appeal of no black tank, less trips to the RV dump and less water use. But I plan to live full-time in my bus. I plan to be connected or close to RV dumps/water regularly.
Furthermore, I like my creature comforts and would like a bidet. I know. Weird. But we all have our idiosyncrasies. Maybe yours is that composting toilet.

Are there any actual concerns with putting a normal residential toilet in a bus? It has to be vented. Could that somehow create a vacuum that takes said human excrement out the vent pipe to the roof? Is the wax seal a concern? I’ve been looking at this for years, but never got this far into it. Now, I’m in the process of planning my build (I’ve nearly finished gutting the bus and preparing it for the buildout).

Basically, are the only concerns those which involve boondocking or are their other concerns with a normal residential toilet that I’m not thinking of?

[cadillackid]

I think the big one is water slosh unless you were to use a pressure veseel flusher.. but you need really good water pressure to recharge one of those.. in a standard tank toilet being level is another concern with the water shut off...


that said, ive travelled in some nicer RV's and they had RV toilets that were designed for such but that had porecelain long bowls that were a very similar experience to a home toilet.. there are RV toilet bidet attachments made. but the long bowl RV toilets in the campers i was in really looked like a house toilet without the tank.. a home toilet bidet attachment might fit those..

[Mattbzn]

Ah. Yes. I forgot that detail. The particular toilet I’m looking at is tankless, so it would just be water in the bowl. I will look into the fancier RV toilets. The one in my travel trailer is… subpar.

[Danjo]

I have a Dometic toilet. Works great.

[Bus'n it]

This is a Dometic 320 in my bus. Elongated toilet made for RV use. We love it. Throw in a 165 gallon waste tank and it makes our travels super comfortable.

[nikitis]

I'm of this mind as well. I will find a way to make a real toilet work. I'm not about composting either. It may take an engineering marvel, but I will make one appear.


PS. I will never use a bidet

[Danjo]

Originally Posted by nikitis

I'm of this mind as well. I will find a way to make a real toilet work. I'm not about composting either. It may take an engineering marvel, but I will make one appear.


PS. I will never use a bidet

I don’t see the point in overthinking it. If you use a toilet designed for a house you’ll likely have to clear the bowl of its water before you move and refill it before you can use it again. Also even at 1.5 gpf it’s a water hog and will fill your black tank faster.

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by nikitis

I'm of this mind as well. I will find a way to make a real toilet work. I'm not about composting either. It may take an engineering marvel, but I will make one appear.


PS. I will never use a bidet

all I can think of when I thinlk of bidet is That COLD water...

[nikitis]

Originally Posted by Danjo

I don’t see the point in overthinking it. If you use a toilet designed for a house you’ll likely have to clear the bowl of its water before you move and refill it before you can use it again. Also even at 1.5 gpf it’s a water hog and will fill your black tank faster.

Having slept on it since my last comment, I'd probably just obtain a water seal and install it under my lid and toilet seat, so the water can slosh all it wants and not go anywhere, with a lock to tie it down to insure it doesn't open. Simple solution.


More water in black water tank is good anyway, keeps it lose and easier to drain. You don't want it becoming hard anyway.

[DeMac]

Originally Posted by nikitis

I'm of this mind as well. I will find a way to make a real toilet work. I'm not about composting either. It may take an engineering marvel, but I will make one appear.


PS. I will never use a bidet

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Toes in animal poo, wash feet with water.

Hand in diaper poo, wash hand with water

Butt with poo, dry paper wipe. What-the...what?

Why does this this make sense to so many Americans?
Does it help the junk, a few inches away, to smell nice?

Anytime that I've had poo on my skin, I always wash with water (maybe soap too). Some folks think their 💩 doesn't stink, other folks have stronger senses. We can smell ya butts while shaking your hand. It ain't funny, to us. Just nasty. Like halitosis, you're being left out of socials, but nobody will tell you.

For the purpose of cleaning ones backside, after defecation, toilets ought to have a bidet or have a sink or shower in the same space, not across the hall. Clean ladies, also prefer a sink next to the toilet. Whether everyday or just a few days per month.

No cold water.
My sprayer has an adjustable temperature valve, which can be dialed in, prior to cleaning.

[cadillackid]

if they could make it put out instantly war mwater with no first second cold blast id be all in... im extremely temperature sensitive esp to cold over my whole body.. once im chilled i will not warm up for a whole day sometimes..



as for water slosh in a home toilet.. sealing the bowl seems like a pain.. spilling water on the floor isnt the issue.. the issue comes about when the water sloshes and splashes down the drain to the point that the trap is open and allows odors from the black tank to come back up.. venting on the road.. negative pressure on the vent could suck all the water out when driving.. a positive pressure on the vent would bubble the water with odor-laden gasses..



RV toilets have a bopwl valve that seals.. many times when I hear people talk of RV toilet odors its that flap which needs some type of service.. replacement gasket or properly cleaned etc..

[nikitis]

Yeah, I don't like the idea of water on my rear. If you buy the right toilet paper and wipe properly you will be clean. It's gritty for a reason. There are so many people in this country who never grow up wiping and just grab handfuls of paper and wipe, not doing proper folds etc, so I can see how some people do not wipe properly.


I disagree that one is any cleaner than one who doesn't use a bidet. Maybe you have difficulty wiping, but I wouldn't assume all of us do. In your mind you've somehow been convinced that wiping isn't capable of collecting 100% of the fecal matter which isn't true. It is possible indeed.



I also find it convenient that all of these Bidets started entering the country around the time Gay Rights Movement was in its height. No offense to anyone here of that orientation but as one who is hetero I prefer to avoid squirting water up my anus.


I mean no offense to anyone here, those are just my preferences, and most of America's as well. Less than 10% of people use Bidets in America currently.

[Danjo]

Originally Posted by nikitis

Yeah, I don't like the idea of water on my rear. If you buy the right toilet paper and wipe properly you will be clean. It's gritty for a reason. There are so many people in this country who never grow up wiping and just grab handfuls of paper and wipe, not doing proper folds etc, so I can see how some people do not wipe properly.


I disagree that one is any cleaner than one who doesn't use a bidet. Maybe you have difficulty wiping, but I wouldn't assume all of us do. In your mind you've somehow been convinced that wiping isn't capable of collecting 100% of the fecal matter which isn't true. It is possible indeed.



I also find it convenient that all of these Bidets started entering the country around the time Gay Rights Movement was in its height. No offense to anyone here of that orientation but as one who is hetero I prefer to avoid squirting water up my anus.


I mean no offense to anyone here, those are just my preferences, and most of America's as well. Less than 10% of people use Bidets in America currently.

Wow man. Good going alienating gay people and those that like clean buttholes

[TaliaDPerkins]

. . . quickly.

[s2mikon]

How did we go from buses to butt holes? Can we stop now?

[Drew Bru]

I'm glad you asked this question, Mattbzn. This thread is priceless.

[cadillackid]

as a gay man I have no interest in a Cold bidet or anything else in that part of my body.. but nevertheless I do believe that the rise of bidet in the USA coincided with a marketing departmewnt that figured they would sell here..


now if said marketing department made one instantly warm id probably find interest.. until then charmin ultra strong has my back.. literally..

[BamaBus]

Originally Posted by nikitis

I also find it convenient that all of these Bidets started entering the country around the time Gay Rights Movement was in its height.

I would like to see the references to that.

Originally Posted by nikitis

No offense to anyone here of that orientation but as one who is hetero I prefer to avoid squirting water up my anus.

I fail to make the connection between using a bidet and sexual orientation.

[Clouse House]

Originally Posted by BamaBus

I would like to see the references to that.



I fail to make the connection between using a bidet and sexual orientation.

Just googled it.
Gay Rights movement started in 1969 but starting receiving support from the Democratic party in 1980

Bidets started selling in the Us in 1981



The real question is, how did he make that correlation?

[Danjo]

I really think it was The Great TP Shortage of 2019