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10-06-2016, 08:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 487
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
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Engine: T444E
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Pumping shower gray water above drain?
Anyone try this? I think I'd like to keep both my fresh and gray water 100 gallon tanks right under my bed in the back. Getting the fresh water to the faucet with a pump should be no issue, but if my shower drain is below the top of my gray water tank I feel that this could be a big issue. Short of strapping my tanks underneath, is there any other option you guys have tried?
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10-06-2016, 09:59 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
Posts: 1,968
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Eldorado Aerotech 24'
Chassis: Ford E-450 Cutaway Bus
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Rated Cap: 19
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There are shower sump pumps for what you propose. If you have room underneath it's cheaper (no battery power required) to let gravity take care of the drains.
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10-07-2016, 07:24 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Manitou Springs, CO
Posts: 219
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Ward
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 passenger
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Just put the shower above the bed.
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10-07-2016, 08:13 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: KANSAS CITY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warewolff
Anyone try this? I think I'd like to keep both my fresh and gray water 100 gallon tanks right under my bed in the back. Getting the fresh water to the faucet with a pump should be no issue, but if my shower drain is below the top of my gray water tank I feel that this could be a big issue. Short of strapping my tanks underneath, is there any other option you guys have tried?
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Wouldn't that make a possible rate of 1600 lbs on one side and to the rear? You will have to be a very very short person to use a shower on top of a 100 gal. tank. What dimensions?
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10-07-2016, 10:20 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 487
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Versatile
Wouldn't that make a possible rate of 1600 lbs on one side and to the rear? You will have to be a very very short person to use a shower on top of a 100 gal. tank. What dimensions?
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No idea yet. I'm fairly competent but never delved into any welding and building a rack to hold ~800 gallon tank underneath the bus is a little intimidating. 1600lbs in the rear shouldn't be too much of an issue ... my bus is rated for 27,000lbs and the rear axle alone is close to 17,000lbs, although I'd have to check for an exact figure. I also like the idea of having the tanks nice and warm inside the bus in the event that we are traveling in sub zero temps.
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10-08-2016, 05:29 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
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Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
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You're only going to have about 800 lbs. Fresh and gray tanks won't be full at the same time. Fresh transfers to gray.
I think Jack (ok trunt) has a shower drain pump, check Honeysuckle Rose build.
Dick
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10-08-2016, 11:04 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 487
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Carpenter
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Engine: T444E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somewhereinusa
You're only going to have about 800 lbs. Fresh and gray tanks won't be full at the same time. Fresh transfers to gray.
I think Jack (ok trunt) has a shower drain pump, check Honeysuckle Rose build.
Dick
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Wow! Why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out later.
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10-11-2016, 06:49 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
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Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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What I did with my class C was just carry enough fresh water while traveling to just get by, ( to do dishes, maybe a shower every other day)you should try to avoid carrying all that weight all the time, then before heading in to Boondock top off water & fuel.
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10-12-2016, 01:05 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Darrington, Wa.
Posts: 304
Year: 1994
Coachwork: Genesis/Am-Tran Tall Roof
Chassis: International, 643 transmission
Engine: DT 466ci 250hp, International
Rated Cap: 86 screaming Monsters
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These mounts are no more difficult than a trailer hitch mount. You don't have to be a engineer just look at trailer hitch on a full size truck and what thickness material there using and copy it in a box that fits your tanks. If you cant weld cut it all out and take it to a local muffler shop and have them weld it up for you. They may even install it for you for a few bucks.
The toilets that pump the solids after they are ground up work pretty well there ion most homes with basement bathrooms.
Either way will work but stay away from sub zero temps. God put wheels on buses to go south in the winter.
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10-20-2017, 03:37 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: West Yelowstone Montana
Posts: 8
Year: 2004
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Chassis: All American
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
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Did you figure this out!!??
Quote:
Originally Posted by warewolff
Anyone try this? I think I'd like to keep both my fresh and gray water 100 gallon tanks right under my bed in the back. Getting the fresh water to the faucet with a pump should be no issue, but if my shower drain is below the top of my gray water tank I feel that this could be a big issue. Short of strapping my tanks underneath, is there any other option you guys have tried?
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Warewolf
We read your question and had pretty much the exact same idea. We have a 29 foot bus with the plan laid out with the tanks under the bed inside the nice warm insulation. We are stuck at not wanting to raise the floor for the drain and we don't know how to pump the water back to the grey. Just curious if you ended up figuring out your plan andv what ya did.
Thanks!!
thebusnamedsage.com
Vinnie & Zoe
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10-21-2017, 04:04 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,242
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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My shower drain is 7" below the floor and the grey water tank is above the floor. I used a small 7 gal water carboy with a 12v submersible pump to lift the shower water into the grey tank.
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08-05-2024, 08:35 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 2
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Sump pump
The use of a shower sump pump like what is used on boats would be the answer.
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