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Old 02-21-2021, 09:49 PM   #21
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Well, I think I do! But I also well understand the capacity of the human mind to mislead itself as to what it's capable of.



I was actually thinking something along these lines, like hooks with tensionable wires attached to the countertop. It would certainly be interesting-looking.

I'm definitely not capable of SS welding, though.
LOL ya I have that issue too! like I think I can talk normally.
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Old 02-22-2021, 08:58 AM   #22
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Well, my bus isn't a democracy.

But what I'm thinking now is to glue the sink directly to a piece of plywood slightly bigger around than the sink, then screw the plywood to the cabinet framing with the rubber in between the plywood and the framing. The butcher block countertop would be fit around the base of the sink without being attached to it directly. The rubber should absorb most of the vibration and shock from the driving, lessening the strain on the sink/plywood adhesive.

This sounds like a great plan. Can’t wait to see how it all turns out, seems like you’re doing an exceptional job with your bus.
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Old 02-27-2021, 01:50 PM   #23
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Failing that, a couple yards pre-twisted twine may be had for tuppence...
Presuming the majority of time the environment will be static, a corner-to-corner tie off may suffice to hold down the sink.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:28 PM   #24
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I'm definitely not capable of SS welding, though.
Your posts make you seem like a thoroughly talented dude, fully capable of learning what needs to be learned.


My friend taught me basics about how to weld over 25 years ago. Never picked up the welder myself until last year or so, using a stick welder. No one looking over my shoulder with advice. Mild steel was OK.


Then I got some stainless steel 1"×1"×1/8" L-angle iron to build a sink stand, and some stainless steel welding sticks from True Value Hardware. I personally found the SS welding was somehow easier (I think it was the thicker welding rods), and the welds came out looking great! (especially compared to some of my first mild steel welds)


Why do you think you are not capable of welding SS? All that repair work on you bus () and you are skeered? Or am I missing something and my welds will be brittle and break or something?


I might would build a sub-frame (or perhaps super-frame, as it will be above the counter top) for the sink, as if it would drop down into the hole, and mount that frame to the counter top. Hard to see, but it looks like there are no mounting points for this sink? It only "sits" in place in a hole? My SS bar-sink has brackets under the edges to mount it to the counter top (but I'm no plumber!) so your sink just confuses me.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:40 PM   #25
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I'm trying to avoid having the countertop at the level of the top of the sink, though.
This is actually pretty simple, if you want this to sit on the counter. These typically get glued in place with silicone adhesive/caulk. That's what I would use. To locate it securely, and prevent it from moving forward or backward in the bus, I would cut the shape in pink in the attached photo, out of 2 layers of 3/4" plywood. Make sure they fit into the recess under the sink, then stack them up and screw them into the counter. Then you can apply the adhesive, and drop it in position.

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Go to Home depot or Lowes and find a similar sink and get install info for it. They mount at the four corners with brackets made for that sink. It's simple
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Old 02-28-2021, 07:52 AM   #27
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Not skoolie-relevant, but I miss the days of my youth when "Neanderthal" was essentially a fraud on the level of Piltdown Man. Now it's back - cream rises to the top, but so do turds.
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Your posts make you seem like a thoroughly talented dude, fully capable of learning what needs to be learned.

Why do you think you are not capable of welding SS? All that repair work on you bus () and you are skeered? Or am I missing something and my welds will be brittle and break or something?
I'm straight-up skeered! Thanks for the kind words. I feel I could learn SS welding if I devoted some time to it, but I'm running low these days on the mental energy I need to learn new stuff. Gotta devote what's left to getting a basic shell I can hang out in from time to time.
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This is actually pretty simple, if you want this to sit on the counter. These typically get glued in place with silicone adhesive/caulk. That's what I would use. To locate it securely, and prevent it from moving forward or backward in the bus, I would cut the shape in pink in the attached photo, out of 2 layers of 3/4" plywood. Make sure they fit into the recess under the sink, then stack them up and screw them into the counter. Then you can apply the adhesive, and drop it in position.

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This is a good idea, and it's made me re-think my plan. I'm still going to glue my sink to a piece of plywood which will then be screwed to my framing with a layer of rubber to act as a shock absorber, but I was planning on "locating" the sink on the plywood with four short pieces of dowel that would go into the four corner holes. Your pic made me realize that I could better secure the sink from sliding on the plywood by screwing blocks into place that fit snugly into the cavities on the underside. These and the butcher block material that will eventually surround the base of the sink will keep it from moving in the horizontal plane, and hopefully the adhesive plus the weight of the thing will keep it from bouncing up and pulling loose.
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Go to Home depot or Lowes and find a similar sink and get install info for it. They mount at the four corners with brackets made for that sink. It's simple
These are the installation instructions for a similar sink. They're basically concerned with just supporting this heavy thing from underneath, and then the cabinetry and countertop keep it from moving anywhere - which it isn't going to do anyway since it's so heavy.

In a house installation, there would be no concern with keeping the sink from moving upwards (unless there's an earthquake or something). In a moving vehicle ... well, this kind of sink probably shouldn't be used in a moving vehicle!
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This is the underside of my farmhouse sink. I want to install this so that the sink is essentially sitting on top of my countertop (rather than embedded or undermount like people normally do). Not sure how to attach it, though. There are these four holes in the bottom (one at each corner) and it looks like I could maybe get toggle bolts into them and bolt it firmly to the countertop that way. But I'm not sure if that's what these holes are meant for - I'm worried they might crack the sink or something since it's in a bus.

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Is there some sort of standard bolt mounting for these that I'm missing? My google-fu is not turning anything up. Appreciate any knowledge or suggestions.
Whether you hang it or mount it or what ever, the drain pipe will still come out the bottom hole of the sink. I do not see an advantage to trying to hang it. I DO see future problems from improperly mounting it!
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