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Old 05-22-2018, 06:25 PM   #1
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Smells

I know this has been brought up but I am failing in my recent search.

Best toilet for no smells inside or out for family of 4?

Reason: We will be camp hosting our way around starting with a park next to our house who is super strict. If there are any smells at all, we will be booted AND banned. So, what should I get/do? Trying to avoid a black water tank if possible for our situation.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:33 PM   #2
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I doubt whether you have a store bought compost toilet, bucket with mulch or whatever in it, or black water, you won't have enough smell emanating from the bus to concern anyone outside. If properly installed the smell is not a concern even inside the bus.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:59 PM   #3
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I would hope not but I have heard differing things depending on the situation and being in Florida, it is all the more important to get the right thing in the bus.
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I would hope not but I have heard differing things depending on the situation and being in Florida, it is all the more important to get the right thing in the bus.
The sewerage smell is caused by liquids and solids mixing and remaining stagnant. Neither smells much on their own, and the slight smell from the solids goes away quickly when they dry.

So composting, or dry toilets produce very little smell in the first place if they are used correctly. That is further improved if they are well ventilated, often done with a small computer fan pushing the air in the toilet out of a roof vent.

They probably don't smell much even without the vent, but they would certainly not smell with one.

There are lots of YouTube reviews of composting toilets, and they universally praise them for their lack of unpleasant odours.
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I doubt whether you have a store bought compost toilet, bucket with mulch or whatever in it, or black water, you won't have enough smell emanating from the bus to concern anyone outside. If properly installed the smell is not a concern even inside the bus.
In my experience about 60% of folks who "don't smell" their composting toilet spend too much time IN the bus and don't get out enough! LMAO
Serously some folks' "composting" toilets leave a tinge of poo and sometimes pee smell throughout the bus. Not saying they all stink, but I've been inside a few that did.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:27 PM   #6
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In my experience about 60% of folks who "don't smell" their composting toilet spend too much time IN the bus and don't get out enough! LMAO
Serously some folks' "composting" toilets leave a tinge of poo and sometimes pee smell throughout the bus. Not saying they all stink, but I've been inside a few that did.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:09 AM   #7
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If you have your toilet vented, with a small, computer style fan try adding a charcoal filter in the vent. It should work wherever, in the vent, you put it.

(Charlie may need to add 2 to his (-
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I installed a composting toilet in December and only regret not doing it sooner. While the initial price tag is a bit of a shock, it is well worth the $960.
I have been living full time in my bus since October and there is never a smell. It's easy to clean.

https://natureshead.net

I highly recommend it.

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Sorry, but what's a "fruit beer"?
Its early, sorry!
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Old 05-23-2018, 07:37 AM   #10
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Hey Roger...gotta ask...is your unit vented to the outdoors?
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UCK!!!! I hate those flavored beers. THey're often just cheap malt liquor with a fancy label.

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Old 05-24-2018, 08:56 AM   #13
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It is vented through the floor. Small vent hose. IMG_1167.jpg
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Thanks. Does yours have a fan?
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I'm just going to say that there are different circumstances that can seriously affect the toilet.

If you're a single person using it as your primary toilet, no big deal. That's a different job than being the primary toilet for 4 people.

My DIY toilet works great but I'll be honest, if I'm out shopping or whatever I'm going to take advantage of facilities when available. It certainly works well enough for our circumstances but I wouldn't confidently say it would do as good a job if it was suddenly being used by 4 people every day.

I will echo what has already been said, separating solids and liquids is critical, and negative pressure ventilation makes a huge difference inside the bus. I wouldn't recommend hanging out next to anyone's toilet vent regardless of type!
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Old 06-02-2018, 03:39 PM   #16
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Get a composting toilet with a urine diverter.

It is not your poo or pee that smells that bad, but mix the two and you are off and running for your own methane production.

Natures Head is a fairly common name and there are others (Sunmar and Separett are a couple of others). Separett is probably the Cadillac of the bunch.

Waterless toilets, waterless toilet

The commercial ones are not cheap, but you can make your own using a 5 gallon bucket and building up for it with a urine diverter that mounts forward of the main hole.

Just Google it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=comp...urine+diverter

There are DIY options as well as some nice porcelain diverters you can use.

I plan on running our diverter into a gray tank rather than have to play the bucket game.


The other thing to do is use a model with a fan (they are tiny 12 volt, low amp fans) or add a fan if you do a DYI deal. That exhausts what tiny odor there may be above the roof of your bus and no one will ever get a whiff.

The ONLY reason to ever have an odor is if you are not using a diverter and/or not doing it right.


Happy pooing!
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Thereís nothing nastier than emptying the blackwater sludge!

Composting toilet all the way. Make sure the fan works and is vented properly. And you use coconut coir. And train everyone on how to properly use it!
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Best toilet for no smells inside or out for family of 4?

Reason: We will be camp hosting our way around starting with a park next to our house who is super strict. If there are any smells at all, we will be booted AND banned. So, what should I get/do? Trying to avoid a black water tank if possible for our situation.
Always a very personal choice (lots of different situations/opinions). In my neck of the woods, camp hosts always have hookups (sewer) even when none of the other sites do. Not sure that is the case everywhere but, if so, that would seem to be the ideal scenario for having an RV toilet/holding tank.

I would bet that four people would be too much for a composting toilet. Maybe you have a campground toilet to provide some relief to your composting toilet?

Maybe this is worth a read:
RV Holding Tanks vs Composting Toilet - JdFinley.com
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if you are REALLLY that worried about smells. just get some Ona gel. works wonders. i put a cover on the jar poked woth large holes, because it makes it last longer, and its VERY effective in small spaces. oh, and cedar works great too.
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Composting toilet all the way. Make sure the fan works and is vented properly. And you use coconut coir. And train everyone on how to properly use it!



gotta love it when a little bit gets on you, or some of the water splaters and one tiny stray drop hits your face.... mmmmmm.l.... pooo sludge.



ya. im going for a bucket or two. i can always slap a lid on it and toss the whole thing if i so desired.
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