Toilet paper concern

mmoore6856 · 07-18-2017, 03:41 AM

So this may be a bit TMI for some people but it's a valid concern. What do others do with the toilet paper if you want to continue to use the soft kind. My husband says that this can be a concern for clogging the lines, and we plan on boondocking sometimes. I find the option of wiping and putting it in a trash bag instead of in the toilet a bit unsanitary. We always wash our hands after. Would a diaper genie be an alternative? What do others out there do, serious question and would appreciate input. Thank you.

mmoore6856 · 07-18-2017, 04:14 AM

So after I asked the question I googled for more information on diaper genies and lots of people use them and feel they work great. Thanks

chev49 · 07-18-2017, 05:13 AM

is not going to clog the lines if you do your construction properly. 30 yrs of busses i have had proves that. put in trash or even the wood stove also works

JDOnTheGo · 07-18-2017, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mmoore6856

What do others do with the toilet paper if you want to continue to use the soft kind.

As previously noted, the toilet to black tank plumbing should not be a concern as it should be nearly straight down. If it isn't, you may want to re-engineer as you may be in for a life of misery.

There is a test for toilet paper - very simple. Put a square or two into a glass of water with a lid and shake it up. If the paper disintegrates, it is good to use. If it does not, it is should be avoided. Most paper on the market that is labeled as "septic safe" is acceptable.

The other 'tricks' are to be sure to use plenty of water in the black tank, do not keep the drain valve open when at a full-hookup site (you need the whoosh of lots of liquid to flush out the solids), and driving around with a tank half full of 'stuff' (lots of liquid) is not a bad thing as it will break up the solids and allow it all to swoosh out the drain when dumped.

Tango · 07-18-2017, 09:56 AM

RV shops all sell "RV Tissue" that supposedly disintegrates more fully than regular TP.

JDOnTheGo · 07-18-2017, 10:01 AM

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RV shops all sell "RV Tissue" that supposedly disintegrates more fully than regular TP.

Yes... but... that "sandpaper" does not qualify as the "soft kind" - at least to my tender parts!!

Tango · 07-18-2017, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOnTheGo

Yes... but... that "sandpaper" does not qualify as the "soft kind" - at least to my tender parts!!

Yeah, but the "Soft Kind" can't do double duty when refinishing a fender.

JDOnTheGo · 07-18-2017, 10:28 AM

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Yeah, but the "Soft Kind" can't do double duty when refinishing a fender.

HA!! Very true!!

brokedown · 07-18-2017, 10:36 AM

This is honestly one of the major reasons I did a composting toilet. Sorry world but that john wayne toilet paper (rough and tough and don't take crap off nobody) is unfit for use.

Dixie Bushcraft · 07-18-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mmoore6856

So this may be a bit TMI for some people but it's a valid concern. What do others do with the toilet paper if you want to continue to use the soft kind. My husband says that this can be a concern for clogging the lines, and we plan on boondocking sometimes. I find the option of wiping and putting it in a trash bag instead of in the toilet a bit unsanitary. We always wash our hands after. Would a diaper genie be an alternative? What do others out there do, serious question and would appreciate input. Thank you.

If it is good enough for a SEPTIC SYSTEM, it is good enough for your black tank.
The big thing to remember is that plenty of water makes for clean tanks.
Otherwise you get the "poop mound of death".

PNW_Steve · 07-19-2017, 10:57 AM

I have lived for extended periods with both conventional RV toilet & black tank as well as with a composting toilet.

I also have no use for "John Wayne" paper.

When using a conventional RV toilet I have used reasonably soft paper and had some issues. This was caused by use of excess paper and not enough water. If you can train ALL users, including guests, to use little paper & plenty of water you should not have a problem. I was not entirely successful in this exercise...

When I did have issue it was a horrible task to resolve. See my post regarding cleaning poo off of the ceiling in my "composting toilets" thread.....

That prompted me to switch to the composting toilet. It too has some less than perfect qualities but I do prefer it over the conventional RV toilet.

Just my $0.02

brokedown · 07-19-2017, 12:47 PM

^^^ that's an experience I will avoid at all costs. Using a black tank was never an option for me. I'm on my 3rd revision of my composting toilet but I'm quite happy with the current state, it lasts about a month between changing the solids bucket, doesn't smell, and there is no chance of getting poo on the furniture.

PNW_Steve · 07-19-2017, 12:54 PM

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^^^ that's an experience I will avoid at all costs. Using a black tank was never an option for me. I'm on my 3rd revision of my composting toilet but I'm quite happy with the current state, it lasts about a month between changing the solids bucket, doesn't smell, and there is no chance of getting poo on the furniture.

I change my bucket out about every 10 days. I have been quite happy with my composter.

brokedown · 07-19-2017, 01:06 PM

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I change my bucket out about every 10 days. I have been quite happy with my composter.

Things that surely help mine last:

. Urine diverter to keep liquids and solids apart
. Using about 2.5 gallons of coconut coir material in the bucket
. Ventilation to outside with a 30mm computer fan keeping negative pressure in the bucket (a system of pvc pipe with bug screens on both ends)
. A metal rod bent into a zig-zag with a handle sticking out the side so you can stir the contents after each use
. Convincing the GF that paper used to pee can go into a different receptacle rather than into the bucket
. Using other restrooms whenever possible.. which to be fair is pretty often for us as we're travelling and spend a lot of time at walmart stores.

PNW_Steve · 07-19-2017, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brokedown

Things that surely help mine last:

. Urine diverter to keep liquids and solids apart
. Using about 2.5 gallons of coconut coir material in the bucket
. Ventilation to outside with a 30mm computer fan keeping negative pressure in the bucket (a system of pvc pipe with bug screens on both ends)
. A metal rod bent into a zig-zag with a handle sticking out the side so you can stir the contents after each use
. Convincing the GF that paper used to pee can go into a different receptacle rather than into the bucket
. Using other restrooms whenever possible.. which to be fair is pretty often for us as we're travelling and spend a lot of time at walmart stores.

Good tips!!

I don't have the zig zag rod and we are such home bodies that we use our own toilet 95% of the time.

I am perfectly happy with a 10 day change.

chev49 · 07-19-2017, 06:10 PM

No one has mentioned the simple system of the early trains... Not much clogging there...

CaptSquid · 07-20-2017, 05:24 PM

One kind of TP to religiously avoid = Single Ply Wally World.

brokedown · 07-20-2017, 05:32 PM

If you're talking about the stuff they use in their restrooms.. I usually bring my own when I use their facilities.

turf · 07-20-2017, 05:49 PM

black tank
charmin
lots of water

ol trunt · 07-20-2017, 08:12 PM

Wally World John Wayne sandpaper is a SURE way to make all users wash their hands. That said, sparing use of septic tank safe TP and frequent emptying of the black tank with a final rinsing with grey water has worked perfectly for us for years. I've graduated to using a mascerator and a dedicated 5/8" garden hose to empty my tanks. No more 3" stinky slinky for me. When the tanks are empty I just wind up the garden hose, connect the ends together, store it back on top of my black tank, peel off my latex gloves and hit the road. Jack

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