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04-26-2019, 06:21 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 128
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Me
Chassis: 2001 IC
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 72
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If I leave the vents open on the stove my firewood will burn up fast but keeping them closed it act like I am not even moving. We get some wind gust at 55mph no difference then driving down the road at 55.
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04-26-2019, 06:56 PM
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#22
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Denver, co
Posts: 58
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Chassis: International (I think)
Engine: Dt466e w/ Allison md3060
Rated Cap: 84, 35000 gvwr
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So to get back to my original question... As long as I have double wall pipe through the roof, I shouldn't have a problem with the maxair fan lid melting, if it's 6 or so inches away.?
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04-26-2019, 07:09 PM
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#23
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronTSchultz
So to get back to my original question... As long as I have double wall pipe through the roof, I shouldn't have a problem with the maxair fan lid melting, if it's 6 or so inches away.?
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My only concern would be while you are driving and running the stove, forward motion will blow that heat right at the plastic vent, too hot, maybe. Of course if the chimney is behind the vent I would be less concerned. There's more to chimney height than just being higher than the roof.
Good info here, pertains to houses, but can be related.
https://www.firewood-for-life.com/ch...and-draft.html
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04-26-2019, 07:21 PM
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#24
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Denver, co
Posts: 58
Year: 1999
Coachwork: International
Chassis: International (I think)
Engine: Dt466e w/ Allison md3060
Rated Cap: 84, 35000 gvwr
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Nah, it will only run when parked.
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07-08-2019, 09:08 AM
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#25
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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07-08-2019, 09:47 AM
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#26
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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looks really good, are you planning on having the stove around that height?
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07-08-2019, 09:59 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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Seems kinda high to me, but the plumbing looks superb!
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07-08-2019, 10:17 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
looks really good, are you planning on having the stove around that height?
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The stove will be lower; the mockup was just to get the chimney placement established.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HazMatt
Seems kinda high to me, but the plumbing looks superb!
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Kinda high with superb plumbing... just like me...
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07-08-2019, 10:48 AM
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#29
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,094
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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ROFLMFAO!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
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Kinda high with superb plumbing... just like me...
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Modest much?!!
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07-09-2019, 05:52 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
The stove will be lower; the mockup was just to get the chimney placement established.
Kinda high with superb plumbing... just like me...
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I suspected that, that may have been the case. That height would be aesthetically pleasing, as well as easier on the knees and back while fire poking. the only real issue would be the cold floor.
looking good tho, and interested to see the stove in its final home
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07-11-2019, 04:03 AM
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#31
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
...interested to see the stove in its final home
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You and me both brother.
Another pic of the almost final chimney install. I will be applying seam sealer over the screws and edges soon. I also ordered a "travel cap" to swap in when going down the road.
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07-12-2019, 12:39 PM
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#32
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Once we are in the bus more regularly, I will be putting a stove in for sure.
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11-09-2019, 01:36 PM
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#33
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciscokid
your stove pipe just needs to be above the highest point of the roof. Mine is very short and works perfect. I drive down the road with my fire blazing and no issues at all.
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Wait, you drive with a fire burning? Why?
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11-09-2019, 02:18 PM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
Nice stove.....hope the cold isn't getting you too bad
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Hey Cornelius,
I don't think anyone else got that LoL
Stay warm brother
Steve
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11-12-2019, 07:13 AM
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#35
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firepuncher
Hey Cornelius,
I don't think anyone else got that LoL
Stay warm brother
Steve
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Cold is relative.... I try not to judge It was -10 C here this morning and everyone else was bundled right up... me not so much.....
I run hotter than a AT 545 in the hills in AZ....
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11-12-2019, 10:38 AM
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#36
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firepuncher
Hey Cornelius, I don't think anyone else got that LoL
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Oh I got it Steve; Yukon Cornelius thinks he's "Mr. Cold-ier Than Thou"...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
It was -10 C here this morning...
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-10 C here...? English please...
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11-12-2019, 10:58 AM
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#37
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
Oh I got it Steve; Yukon Cornelius thinks he's "Mr. Cold-ier Than Thou"...
-10 C here...? English please...
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LoL
-10C is 14 F but tonight in Barrie where Cornelius lives, it's going down to -20C or -4F. My brother lives in Fort McMurray Alberta where it frequently hits -30C or -22 F and occasionally drops to the point where the temperature is the same in Celsius and Fahrenheit -40.
Steve
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11-13-2019, 08:09 AM
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#38
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComfortEagle
Oh I got it Steve; Yukon Cornelius thinks he's "Mr. Cold-ier Than Thou"...
-10 C here...? English please...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firepuncher
LoL
-10C is 14 F but tonight in Barrie where Cornelius lives, it's going down to -20C or -4F. My brother lives in Fort McMurray Alberta where it frequently hits -30C or -22 F and occasionally drops to the point where the temperature is the same in Celsius and Fahrenheit -40.
Steve
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I just tend to run hotter than most folks is all.. I have experienced returning from "hotter" locations for work to sub zero temps and it took me a day or two to sort myself out. but for the most part I always am warm.
In Goose Bay I would wear a base layer and a rain jacket and be fine until -40. but much the same as folks in AZ say "it's a dry heat" up in Fort Mac and in Goose "it's a dry cold" .... some folks have a hard time with -10C or 14 F here in Ont on account of the humidity or "damp" cold, but are totally fine with -40 in the north....
my beef is when you're cold you can put on more clothes.....but when I'm hot I can only get soo naked before the cops are called or I end up on the news.....
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11-13-2019, 08:57 AM
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#39
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 505
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: Phantom
Engine: CAT 3208
Rated Cap: 87, says Gillig...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius
I just tend to run hotter than most folks is all... my beef is when you're cold you can put on more clothes.....but when I'm hot I can only get soo naked before the cops are called or I end up on the news.....
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I am skeptical; if you really were hotter than most folks maybe the good people of Goose Bay wouldn't mind your nakedness...
On a more serious note, I did a bit of an experiment yesterday... Temps here in the DC area are starting to fall, so I fired up the wood stove and the propane heater to see how long it would take for temps in the bus to come up.
The temp in the bus started at 40F (frigid I know...), and from the time I lit the fire and turned on the propane heater it took the following time to temp:
- 30 minutes - 54F
- 50 minutes - 63F
- 70 minutes - 67F
- 85 minutes - 70F
I will try again with colder temps...
For reference, the wood stove is at the very front of the bus, near the door. And the propane heater is in a very back corner. I suspended the thermometer from the ceiling about halfway between the two heaters. The bus is still basically an empty shell with spray foam in the ceiling and rigid foam in the walls, all windows uncovered, and no insulation in the floors (not yet, will be insulating the floor from underneath...).
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11-14-2019, 06:32 AM
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#40
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Barrie ON
Posts: 440
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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CE
There is nothing wrong with those time for temp ranges, especially with the variables you mentioned.
once you get the floor done, panel everything up, and sort out any drafts you may or may not find.... she should be a toaster on wheels
then it will be a matter of how long she stays toasty, but I think you're gonna have a cozy rig when its cold out
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