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12-22-2019, 04:37 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ellenville
Posts: 8
Year: 1991
Chassis: 3700
Engine: 7.3t
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Diy woodstove idea
Hey guys just wanted to share a woodstove I made for my bus maybe can go some people build something similar if they want for a low cost hope yah like it thanks
https://youtu.be/S3jHOEjQ3S4
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12-25-2019, 06:22 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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There's tons of plans and ideas online - definitely check out many before committing to anything!
I'm hoping for something small (I'll be using it in a shortie), but which will run for many hours without feeding (so I can sleep). That seems to be the biggest issue with things like the cubic mini and whatnot - they go 4 hours max from what I've heard. Check out the video series starting with the video below - that's what I plan to try, or something similar to it - basically a home-made gravity feed pellet stove.
Chris
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12-25-2019, 07:43 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ellenville
Posts: 8
Year: 1991
Chassis: 3700
Engine: 7.3t
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Hey yes there are many designs and builds the reason I built this one is cause I didn't want to use a propane tank I wanted something a bit taller I been experimenting with it the last couple days and actually had it loaded up and was able to stay burning for around 6 hours so that's pretty good for my needs do like the pellet stove idea though and hope u end up making something and letting us check it out
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12-25-2019, 08:17 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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Wow 6 hours is a good burn for a small stove! Very nice!
Chris
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12-25-2019, 08:26 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ellenville
Posts: 8
Year: 1991
Chassis: 3700
Engine: 7.3t
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Yes I was very happy with it going for that long but it's nice to have the height to stack the wood in there I think that's the only reason I was able to go as long
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12-25-2019, 11:39 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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The one difference I see in many home built wood stoves is that many are made from thin material such as those ammo boxes or a propane or air tank. An efficient wood burner is made from much thicker cast iron and maintains heat much longer than a thin walled version.
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12-25-2019, 12:11 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Foot of the siskiyou mountains Oregon.
Posts: 222
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas / international
Chassis: International
Engine: Dt 360/ spicer 5 speed
Rated Cap: 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
The one difference I see in many home built wood stoves is that many are made from thin material such as those ammo boxes or a propane or air tank. An efficient wood burner is made from much thicker cast iron and maintains heat much longer than a thin walled version.
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I agree that a good wood stove would ideally be thicker but I disagree about the use of cast iron. I personally don't care for cast iron stoves as they are made from different parts that have to be sealed together and often leak air from my experience. In skoolie applications Cast iron is Also more prone to cracking due to extreme vibrations than a welded stove is. I have also seen plenty of home made stoves, made from various old tanks , that have lasted for 20 years or more in service.. though they do eventually burn/rust out.My 2¢
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12-25-2019, 12:15 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ellenville
Posts: 8
Year: 1991
Chassis: 3700
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I would deff agree most of them are cast but u also get what yah pay for so I would deff expect a stove that j was gonna spend some money on to maintain heat but this was just a cheap little build that is suiting my needs perfectly
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12-25-2019, 12:17 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ellenville
Posts: 8
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Deff agree with that as well and it is very simple for me to whip up another one of these in not much time
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01-03-2020, 12:36 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Wamego Ks
Posts: 617
Year: 2007
Chassis: Collins
Engine: 6.6L LMM Duramax
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I'll throw one other idea in there. Not sure how it would last in a flexing bus. But, I have a Woodstock soapstone stove which utilizes thick slabs of soapstone to retain the heat for many hours after the fire has burned out. They are great stoves! But too big for a bus...
So if you use thinner welded material, but also add in something to help retain heat, maybe that would work best?
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01-08-2020, 05:00 PM
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#11
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Winnemucca, NV/Reno NV
Posts: 186
Year: 2003
Coachwork: 2003 Thomas E-350 shorty
Chassis: E350
Engine: 7.3 Powerstroke
Rated Cap: 24
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I bought materials to make a stove, then found out about chinese diesel air heaters. Just installed it and tested over the weekend. Very happy; 5kw heats my 4 window shorty well. Plan on tapping into my main diesel tank when the weather gets better. There's a thread on the forum.
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01-08-2020, 07:47 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 375
Year: 2003
Chassis: Chevy cut-away 6-window shortie
Engine: 6.0L Gasser
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The diesel heaters sound really nice, though since I have a gas bus, and I'm not full-timing in the bus, I figured the wood stove idea would be interesting to try out first. I think the gentleman in the video I posted had some great ideas, though I'm not nearly as good at metalworking, and so did what I found worked and catered to what I needed.
I used exhaust headers, slightly modified, for the pellet hopper start and flue pipe takeoff (a 3" pipe fits perfectly over the header), I didn't create the lower "oven", simplified the interior baffle design, and used a sliding air intake (rather than round). I also used some stainless mesh as a spark arrestor for the air intake. One other change I made was to include some high-temp insulation along the bottom, back, and left sides so it will be pushing all the heat out the front and top (less of a concern for the bus wall it will be nearest to). The removable pellet basket is some scrap steel bent into a "U" shape with some expanded steel bent and riveted in for the grate (and now that I know it works, I need to find some stainless expanded metal to last longer). I riveted a small section of exhaust pipe so that it sticks about 1/4" into the inlet pipe bolted to the top of the stove, and so the pellets don't just overflow the basket. I also put a 16 gauge steel sheet along the inside wall that gets hottest to keep from burning it out too quickly (the top is already double-walled). I'm not planning to need it all that often, so I don't expect it to burn out too quickly but if it does, I simply use another ammo can (I have 2 more).
Anyway, I've lit the stove several times, and I can burn pellets for a long time with no maintenance - I've burnt them at a rate of about 1 1/4 pounds per hour for 6-8 hours in testing, and didn't end up with much ash to clean out, so burning hot all night long is definitely possible, and was my real goal with a stove. 2 cups of water in a small pot boils in about 10-15 minutes, so the top definitely gets warm enough. I don't have a stove thermometer yet, but the top and side are throwing lots of heat. I plan on a damper in the stove pipe to keep more heat in and burn less fuel. As of now, the exhaust is completely smoke-free after about 10 minutes from being lit, so the burn is clean and hot!
In any case, it's been a nice, fun project and break from the bus. It's not complete, but I would definitely call it a success. If nothing else, this will keep me warm in the bus this winter while working on it!
Chris
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01-08-2020, 09:23 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farok
In any case, it's been a nice, fun project and break from the bus.
Chris
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Your stove looks great. It reminded me of this:
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01-08-2020, 10:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hndybrd91
Hey guys just wanted to share a woodstove I made for my bus maybe can go some people build something similar if they want for a low cost hope yah like it thanks
https://youtu.be/S3jHOEjQ3S4
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What scared you off of using a propane tank?
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01-09-2020, 01:03 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 216
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by farok
Check out the video series starting with the video below...
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Nice find. I checked out the series, and in the following video, he confesses to a burn time of ONLY TEN MINUTES for a piece of hardwood roughly 1.5×1×8 inches--and that THREE such pieces still don't "last that much longer" (though do burn hotter)... Anyway, I don't own a wood stove, so I don't have a baseline, but that sounds ridiculous!
... Then again, he claims to have "pretty well used up the whole bucket," when there are about three-quarters of it remaining--so maybe this guy's just a fan of hyperbole?
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01-09-2020, 02:27 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
Your stove looks great. It reminded me of this:
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which one is you?
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01-09-2020, 06:27 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kidharris
which one is you?
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I'm the umbrella, of course.
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01-12-2020, 12:36 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: AZ
Posts: 478
Year: 2004
Engine: 7.3L Navistar T444e Diesel
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I'm looking into maybe doing the build that Slim Potatohead did with the ammo can. Maybe using a larger ammo can?
Have also thought of modifying an existing barrel stove, but that may not be worth it.
I hate the idea of having to choose between refilling a wood stove every few hours, and needing electricity for a pellet stove.
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01-12-2020, 03:05 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe45
I'm looking into maybe doing the build that Slim Potatohead did with the ammo can. Maybe using a larger ammo can?
Have also thought of modifying an existing barrel stove, but that may not be worth it.
I hate the idea of having to choose between refilling a wood stove every few hours, and needing electricity for a pellet stove.
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A gent I knew bought a compact pellet stove for his cabin that ran from 12 volts. Would something like that work for you?
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01-12-2020, 09:21 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Wamego Ks
Posts: 617
Year: 2007
Chassis: Collins
Engine: 6.6L LMM Duramax
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Non electric pellet stove
I'm not sure how they work, but it's possible to build your own pellet stove with no electricity... US Stove makes an EPA Cert stove that is gravity fed pellet stove.
https://www.usstove.com/product/wise-way-2000-sq-ft-non-electric-pellet-stove/
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