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01-09-2020, 10:13 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 119
Year: 2002
Chassis: Van
Engine: 5.7L Gas
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Insulating the Windows?
Hey All,
I am in the process of planning my bus insulation. I think I am going to go with 1" XPS insulation for the floor and 2" XPS insulation for the ceiling and walls. I would like to keep the bus windows as I like how they look from the outside and don't want to deal with taking out the windows and welding sheet metal over the holes. My question is, can I wall/ insulate over some of the windows on the inside? So the windows would all be visible from the outside but only about half of the internal windows would be visible/ usable from the inside. The others would be covered with insulation and wood siding. I'm assuming I might run into some serious condensation issues due the the covered windows being in contact with insulation? If I left a 1/2" gap between the window and insulation would that help? As you guys can tell I am pretty new to this and learning as I go. Thanks for the help!
BTW I own a 2002 Chevy short bus.
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01-09-2020, 10:35 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,259
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American
Engine: 8.3 Cummins ISC
Rated Cap: 75
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The windows have a bad habit of working themselves open while driving down the road. I would make it so you can easily access the windows if you have to.
Also yes I could see condensation being an issue as well.
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01-09-2020, 10:42 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,402
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
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I helped a tent out here with his conversion and he had a similar situation. He sound up cutting the 1" blue foam to fit each window and then had them covered in a fabric that matched his interior.
They looked very sharp.
He could pick and choose which windows were covered or not, depending on climate and view.
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01-09-2020, 10:44 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 119
Year: 2002
Chassis: Van
Engine: 5.7L Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIbluebird
The windows have a bad habit of working themselves open while driving down the road. I would make it so you can easily access the windows if you have to.
Also yes I could see condensation being an issue as well.
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If I ended up covering these windows I would completely seal them off so they would not be able to be opened. Then again I might want to open them up occasionally to air out any condensation that would occur...
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01-09-2020, 10:45 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 119
Year: 2002
Chassis: Van
Engine: 5.7L Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I helped a tent out here with his conversion and he had a similar situation. He sound up cutting the 1" blue foam to fit each window and then had them covered in a fabric that matched his interior.
They looked very sharp.
He could pick and choose which windows were covered or not, depending on climate and view.
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This was the other option I was thinking about. I didn't want to do this because I wouldn't be able to use that space around the windows for a closet/ wall/ whatever. But I guess I could still do this if it looked nice enough!
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01-09-2020, 10:46 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,030
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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I'm going to make window inserts out of 2" XPS covered with black fabric (facing the outside) and white fabric (facing the inside), with velcro around the edge to attach to a wood frame around each window (my windows are black so these should not be too obvious from the outside). I'm thinking maybe each insert will have a small pocket on the out side that I can fill with silica gel packets - not sure that will help much with condensation but maybe.
I love my windows too much to cover any of them permanently, but I need to be able to stop them from leaking massive amounts of heat, too.
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01-09-2020, 05:37 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Stansbury Park, Utah
Posts: 189
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: GA39530
Engine: DT466E 215hp 620tq
Rated Cap: 40
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Sewed up Curtains
I sewed up some insulating curtains, three layers and they roll up. Just an Idea. they call them Kume curtains.
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01-09-2020, 05:44 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,030
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FamilyCircus
I sewed up some insulating curtains, three layers and they roll up. Just an Idea. they call them Kume curtains.
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I noticed those in your build thread and they look very nice. What is the insulation part of them? Fingers crossed for aerogel ...
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01-09-2020, 06:10 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,222
Year: 1999
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC1000 HandyBus
Engine: 5.9L 24V-L6 Cummins ISB
Rated Cap: 26 foot
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I'm thinking of using plexiglass, and cutting pieces the size of each window opening. Stick them in place (however they hold in place is another story) and they become double-pane windows for when it's cold. Still lets in sunlight, and you can see out, but reduces heat loss. Then the fabric-covered foam (as mentioned in previous posts) can also be used when it's dark and well below freezing.
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01-09-2020, 06:36 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Stansbury Park, Utah
Posts: 189
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: GA39530
Engine: DT466E 215hp 620tq
Rated Cap: 40
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Its a three layer assembly. Polar fleece facing the window, polyethylene sheet next as a vapor barrier, then a medium weight cotton curtain material. made a big difference.
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