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10-11-2020, 12:30 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 83
Year: 2003
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Preferred rooftop a/c?
We're ready to install roof top a/c for our 40' Thomas. I had decided on the recpro 15btu with heatpump, but it seems they are not available now. I am wondering what units yall would recommend based on reliability, low noise, and efficiency, as there seems to be a good many different brands. Also where you recommend purchasing from. I am having trouble finding them online. I plan on installing two 15k btu units both with heat pump non ducted. I would like to spend around 1000$ each.
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10-11-2020, 01:57 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,302
Year: None
Coachwork: None
Chassis: None
Engine: None
Rated Cap: None
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Coleman Mach series A/Cs are tried-and-true. Not sure if they are available in a heat pump version through.
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10-11-2020, 10:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEESE_WAGON
Coleman Mach series A/Cs are tried-and-true. Not sure if they are available in a heat pump version through.
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We have the Coleman Roughneck III (13.5K BTU) ... it is NOT a heat pump. It does have a "chill chaser" heater option.
Functionality ... it helps while driving in <90 degree weather. While stationary, it works well.
Note: Our bus has standard insulation at present.
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10-12-2020, 02:02 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Wild Wild West
Posts: 691
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aridgedell
We're ready to install roof top a/c for our 40' Thomas. I had decided on the recpro 15btu with heatpump, but it seems they are not available now. I am wondering what units yall would recommend based on reliability, low noise, and efficiency, as there seems to be a good many different brands. Also where you recommend purchasing from. I am having trouble finding them online. I plan on installing two 15k btu units both with heat pump non ducted. I would like to spend around 1000$ each.
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Curious as to why you want to go with rooftop A/C in that price range when you could get a mini split for the same or cheaper? I have a couple rooftop units, but not sure if I want to rely on them at their age. If I'm buying new, I will definitely choose mini split over rooftop.
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10-12-2020, 03:20 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: The West
Posts: 1,210
Year: 1998
Coachwork: MCI
Chassis: 102 EL3
Engine: DD 60
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I ordered my two Coleman Mach 8 15k btu heat pumps from rvautoparts.com. There are several different models so be certain. For example, I wanted the units with the condensation pump.
I don't find mine to be terribly loud but occasionally, walking around an RV park, I'll notice one running that seems very quiet. Not sure if that is a make/model thing, only the fan running (not condenser), or what. If I didn't already own them, I might make inquiries.
Edit: rvautoparts.com had the best price at the time - May of 2018.
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10-12-2020, 03:46 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackE
Curious as to why you want to go with rooftop A/C in that price range when you could get a mini split for the same or cheaper? I have a couple rooftop units, but not sure if I want to rely on them at their age. If I'm buying new, I will definitely choose mini split over rooftop.
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the space and install effort.. a rooftop unit you pretty much cut a hole run a wire and drop it in.. and its self contained..
the minisplit is more like a regular A/C install for a building.. and you need wall space for the indoor unit plus under-bus or other space for the outdoor unit..
the most common wall space for a minisplit is the front and rear bulkheads. a buddy of mine wanted full-bus road A/C (and is keeping his school bus windows). so we set him up with dual front / rear bulkhead moubted road A/C evaporators. which leaves little space for a minisplit.. so 2 rooftops are going on his bus.. he plugs into shore power much more often thsan boondocks and has a nice Genset on board for when he does so the starting current of the rooftops arent an issue.. he isnt running solar or battery for the A/Cs..
-Christopher
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10-12-2020, 03:51 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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people asking me to fix their A/C's on their RVs rarely have Coleman units and VERY often have dometic units..
just sayin.. im not sure if there are zillions more dometics out there or if they are really that unreliable? but the coleman units just seem much nicer than most dometics I see.. at least the ones a few years old that people asking me to fix..
not sure of the newer dometic stuff.. i dont deal with it.. i always thought dometics were decent until this summer where a lot of RVs got revived and used aftyer sitting.. and my phone rang a lot for A/C's to be made functional being it was a HOT summer (for a change even in ohio)
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10-12-2020, 06:53 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 83
Year: 2003
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
the space and install effort.. a rooftop unit you pretty much cut a hole run a wire and drop it in.. and its self contained..
the minisplit is more like a regular A/C install for a building.. and you need wall space for the indoor unit plus under-bus or other space for the outdoor unit..
the most common wall space for a minisplit is the front and rear bulkheads. a buddy of mine wanted full-bus road A/C (and is keeping his school bus windows). so we set him up with dual front / rear bulkhead moubted road A/C evaporators. which leaves little space for a minisplit.. so 2 rooftops are going on his bus.. he plugs into shore power much more often thsan boondocks and has a nice Genset on board for when he does so the starting current of the rooftops arent an issue.. he isnt running solar or battery for the A/Cs..
-Christopher
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Pretty much my exact reasoning and same set up.
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10-12-2020, 07:15 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 83
Year: 2003
Chassis: Thomas
Engine: 5.9L Cummins ISB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JDOnTheGo
I ordered my two Coleman Mach 8 15k btu heat pumps from rvautoparts.com. There are several different models so be certain. For example, I wanted the units with the condensation pump.
I don't find mine to be terribly loud but occasionally, walking around an RV park, I'll notice one running that seems very quiet. Not sure if that is a make/model thing, only the fan running (not condenser), or what. If I didn't already own them, I might make inquiries.
Edit: rvautoparts.com had the best price at the time - May of 2018.
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good to know thank you
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10-12-2020, 07:55 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montana/Texas
Posts: 682
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Crown by Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 230 HP DT 466e/MT 643!
Rated Cap: 16
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Hey, Cadillackid- have you heard/know anything about Furrion rooftop A/C's? Been looking at them...wondering your thoughts...
Thanks!!
John
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10-12-2020, 08:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I don’t know anything about longevity however they are a neat system. You put them together as a system for what you want(control method, ducted or not etc).. they seem hard to price out unles you find kits with everything you need for sale. They get good reviews
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10-12-2020, 08:07 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Montana/Texas
Posts: 682
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Crown by Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: 230 HP DT 466e/MT 643!
Rated Cap: 16
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Nice. Thanks!
John
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10-12-2020, 11:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 787
Year: 1993
Coachwork: 44' Newell Coach
Engine: 8v92T Detroit
Rated Cap: 2 adults and two pigeons
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I looked at the Furrion line of RV appliances/AC's. Seems they are made in China and if something goes wrong, you just can't get parts. More like a throwaway. That said, I will take the beating and go for the Furrion Arctic 12v fridge since it has the look we are after. I thought long and hard on mini split units but in the end for the trouble of installing them, dealing with condensate and serviceability issues for where I would mount the condensers, the rooftop units are the way to go. If it breaks, lift it off, toss it out, swap with a new one and be back on the road.
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10-18-2020, 08:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 442
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins ISC 260HP/660Q/MD3060 6spd
Rated Cap: 81
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I got 2 Coleman Mach/Airxcel rooftop units 13500 BTU’s each - low profile units. I went with them for ease of install and if I only have 15 amp hook ups I can still run it. I avoided 15,000 btu since I didn’t want to risk not running on a 15 amp plug, though I think most would. I installed heat strips along with them and it’s a very nice feature to have since I don’t have to run my propane furnace as much.
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07-02-2021, 11:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 787
Year: 1993
Coachwork: 44' Newell Coach
Engine: 8v92T Detroit
Rated Cap: 2 adults and two pigeons
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I received my Furrion 14.5 rooftop units. Curious as to those with any brand of roof top units on your skoolies, did you have to do anything special to mount them on the curved roof, or did they sit down fine? I will be cutting my own 14x14" holes since i put in large marine hatches at the emergency roof openings.
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07-02-2021, 11:55 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 442
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins ISC 260HP/660Q/MD3060 6spd
Rated Cap: 81
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On my roof top air conditioners they have a compressible foam seal that compresses as you tighten it down, it was more than enough to seal around the curve. On the inside I just used wood.... 2x4's I think. wasn't bad at all.
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07-03-2021, 12:26 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 787
Year: 1993
Coachwork: 44' Newell Coach
Engine: 8v92T Detroit
Rated Cap: 2 adults and two pigeons
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bon Voyage
I got 2 Coleman Mach/Airxcel rooftop units 13500 BTU’s each - low profile units. I went with them for ease of install and if I only have 15 amp hook ups I can still run it. I avoided 15,000 btu since I didn’t want to risk not running on a 15 amp plug, though I think most would. I installed heat strips along with them and it’s a very nice feature to have since I don’t have to run my propane furnace as much.
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Did you have any issues installing them on the curved roof?
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07-03-2021, 02:15 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 442
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins ISC 260HP/660Q/MD3060 6spd
Rated Cap: 81
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No problems.
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