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07-12-2021, 04:54 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Oakley, CA
Posts: 12
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Propane Tank Mounting
Hey y’all I’m looking at getting a freightliner skoolie where do i mount the propane tank? Pictures of your designs would be wonderful!
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07-12-2021, 05:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I mounted mine under the right rear corner of the bus. 29.3 gallon, access door in the side. I had to shorten the exhaust pipe that went straight out the back to go out the side behind the rear wheel.
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07-12-2021, 07:02 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,075
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I mounted mine under the right rear corner of the bus. 29.3 gallon, access door in the side. I had to shorten the exhaust pipe that went straight out the back to go out the side behind the rear wheel.
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Nice job. I can't find a horizontal 30 gal tank anywhere and I've been looking. There seems to be a global shortage
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07-12-2021, 07:35 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,435
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Propane tanks are not supposed to be located in front of the front wheels or behind the rear wheels.
Yes, I know that food trucks do it all the time. Yes, I know that 'hundreds of us have them mounted on the rear bumper'. Yes, there are no RV police out there enforcing the rules.
It's in the fire code.
Here's one forum link to the relevant documents.
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/w...anks-6338.html
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07-12-2021, 08:04 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,075
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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The whole underside of the bus is either in front of or behind the rear wheels
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07-12-2021, 08:23 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,435
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rwnielsen
The whole underside of the bus is either in front of or behind the rear wheels
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fixed the text.
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07-12-2021, 08:58 PM
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#7
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,075
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucker
fixed the text.
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I was just kidding anyway. What you're saying makes perfect sense though, that could be pretty exciting in an accident
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07-12-2021, 09:29 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Containers shall not be mounted on the exterior of the rear wall or the rear bumper of the vehicle.
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Quote:
Tanks mounted behind the rear axle of a motor home or chassis-mount camper shall be installed in such a manner that the bottom of the tank and any connection thereto shall not be lower than either the rear axle (excluding the differential) or any section of the frame immediately to the rear of the tank, whichever is higher.
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NFPA 1192 appears to say that behind the rear axle is OK.
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07-12-2021, 11:09 PM
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#9
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Bly Oregon
Posts: 537
Year: 1986
Coachwork: Crown
Chassis: Supercoach
Engine: Cummins 350 big cam
Rated Cap: 86 passengers?
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Mine is mounted between the front and rear wheels, below the floor, but attached to it. It is a tank specifically designed to be mounted horizontally.
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07-13-2021, 12:21 AM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Here’s what I did .
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07-13-2021, 05:13 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 1,075
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000, 40' MPV
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/B300 trans
Rated Cap: U/K
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Thats a pretty practical approach. I'm leaning towards a pair of tanks myself, easier to just swap them out than maneuver the bus around a fill out station.
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07-13-2021, 09:39 AM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rwnielsen
Thats a pretty practical approach. I'm leaning towards a pair of tanks myself, easier to just swap them out than maneuver the bus around a fill out station.
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If your demand isn’t too high it makes sense. You can swap at almost any gas station, hardware store, grocery store, convenience store. You can probably get it 24 hours a day.
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07-13-2021, 12:20 PM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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The portable tanks have expiration dates, but the permanent mounted tanks don't.
The swap tanks may not have current dates (they get away with it because they test them every refill), so if you swap a tank and then try to get it refilled with expired date they won't refill it. So be annoying and check the dates at the swap place, I had to look at bunch of them to find a valid one. The secret is you can swap expired one for current one..
You cant use the portable ones sideways, and can be too tall to fit in some vehicles.
And of course they are limited to 5 gal for swaps. One thought is have a permanent tank and a portable one, and can fill up the fixed tank with the portable if needed, and store it flat, they can be too tall to fit into a lot of vehicles.
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07-13-2021, 12:32 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 7,000
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
You cant use the portable ones sideways, and can be too tall to fit in some vehicles.
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How tall are the portable ones?
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07-13-2021, 12:38 PM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Fraser Valley British Columbia
Posts: 1,043
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner
Engine: C7 Cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
The portable tanks have expiration dates, but the permanent mounted tanks don't.
The swap tanks may not have current dates (they get away with it because they test them every refill), so if you swap a tank and then try to get it refilled with expired date they won't refill it. So be annoying and check the dates at the swap place, I had to look at bunch of them to find a valid one. The secret is you can swap expired one for current one..
You cant use the portable ones sideways, and can be too tall to fit in some vehicles.
And of course they are limited to 5 gal for swaps. One thought is have a permanent tank and a portable one, and can fill up the fixed tank with the portable if needed, and store it flat, they can be too tall to fit into a lot of vehicles.
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They should never be in vehicles!
Recently saw a company that was doing van conversions promoting their galley module and they had a bbq tank mounted in the kitchen cabinet directly under a stove. This is really stupid and will make you dead.
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07-13-2021, 01:39 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
NFPA 1192 appears to say that behind the rear axle is OK.
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Just not on the exterior wall or on the bumper, and must be higher than axle or other substantial part of the vehicle
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07-13-2021, 01:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar1
They should never be in vehicles!
Recently saw a company that was doing van conversions promoting their galley module and they had a bbq tank mounted in the kitchen cabinet directly under a stove. This is really stupid and will make you dead. Attachment 59415
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I thought there was some rule somewhere about those 5lb tanks being OK. I could be wrong
Edit: I’d never do it. If anyone has ever witnessed tank pressure relief they would probably agree
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07-13-2021, 01:43 PM
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#18
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
How tall are the portable ones?
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The Internet says 18 inches. I thought I measured 19
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07-13-2021, 01:46 PM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,831
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
The portable tanks have expiration dates, but the permanent mounted tanks don't.
The swap tanks may not have current dates (they get away with it because they test them every refill), so if you swap a tank and then try to get it refilled with expired date they won't refill it. So be annoying and check the dates at the swap place, I had to look at bunch of them to find a valid one. The secret is you can swap expired one for current one..
You cant use the portable ones sideways, and can be too tall to fit in some vehicles.
And of course they are limited to 5 gal for swaps. One thought is have a permanent tank and a portable one, and can fill up the fixed tank with the portable if needed, and store it flat, they can be too tall to fit into a lot of vehicles.
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The good part about the swaps is I’ve never had a tank refused. I’ve brought in rusty ones, ones with pre-OPD valves, painted with house paint...
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07-13-2021, 02:08 PM
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#20
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern California (Sacramento)
Posts: 1,435
Year: 1999
Coachwork: El Dorado Fiberglass
Chassis: Ford E450
Engine: V10 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Just not on the exterior wall or on the bumper, and must be higher than axle or other substantial part of the vehicle
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Great clarification! There is a lot of verbiage in that section, and we would benefit from an article about propane tank placement.
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