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01-07-2018, 12:57 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 4
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3000 rpm
Hello all.
I recently acquired a 1967 dodge school bus that I am renovating into an rv.
My question is when driving on the highway at 60 mph it is running at 3000 rpm. Is there any way to drop the rpm’s and be easier on the engine.
I’m thinking changing the rear end gear ratio but no idea where to start.
Any info and help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
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01-07-2018, 01:16 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nivek1972
Hello all.
I recently acquired a 1967 dodge school bus that I am renovating into an rv.
My question is when driving on the highway at 60 mph it is running at 3000 rpm. Is there any way to drop the rpm’s and be easier on the engine.
I’m thinking changing the rear end gear ratio but no idea where to start.
Any info and help is appreciated
Thanks in advance
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Cool bus...idk about rearends...at least in this case...but, yeah, it's the easiest part to mod...
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01-07-2018, 01:26 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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If you've got enough space in your wheel wells, taller tires can make a difference
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01-07-2018, 01:35 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
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Check the data plate on the rear axle. There should be either a plate, or a number in the actual casting that will give you the gear ratio. Call truck shops to find out if those gears can be changed to a lower ratio.
Example: my bus had a 5.29 ratio. Eaton made a now-obsolete 33233 rear axle. Chalk's Bus Parts in Houston did some digging and found they could change that ratio to a 4.11. End result was I went from a top end of 55 mph @ 2450 rpm to 72 mph @ 2400 rpm. BIG jump!
Don't take a "No" just from one shop and think they all will say that. I took over a year to find what I needed to do that change. I always asked if the person I was talking to knew if there was someone else who might have some experience with my rear axle. I never accepted a "No" answer. It may have slowed me down, but never stopped me.
Best of luck!
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01-07-2018, 01:43 PM
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Very cool bus ! More pictures when you get a chance.
Tires and inside the pumpkin, like they said.
Welcome ! What are your plans once you get her to spin-down a bit?
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01-07-2018, 02:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Gotta ask...what engine? That many revs in some engines is a death wish...on others...OK.
If we can determine the "sweet spot" for it, that will tell the tale on where the gears and tires should be for highway speeds.
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01-07-2018, 03:59 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 4
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Hey there. It’s a 361 b series. Getting approx 10 mpg now the way it is
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01-07-2018, 04:01 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 4
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More pics
Here you go
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01-07-2018, 04:40 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nivek1972
Here you go
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How much of the exterior you keeping? I saw a really cool '58 but when it was "restored"...it was a hot rod and "lowered"...stupid...anyway, I know you gonna do a awesome job...I'm just weird...lol
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01-07-2018, 04:45 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,545
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdawgsfanasty
How much of the exterior you keeping? I saw a really cool '58 but when it was "restored"...it was a hot rod and "lowered"...stupid...anyway, I know you gonna do a awesome job...I'm just weird...lol
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great bus!!!
being a Hot-rodder myself I think slammed and unusual busses are kickass..
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01-07-2018, 04:49 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 4
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I have pretty much ripped out most of the interior. Going to replace the insulation and rewrite the electrics to new l e d fixtures and USB power plugs.
Doing solar power, solar shower and it will have new paint all around. The engine is sound but I need to change out the rear end to get the rpms lowered so I don’t blow the engine on a long trip.
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01-07-2018, 05:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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if you are getting 10 mpg with the current setup, you do not want to change anything
last gas schoolbus I drove, international 345 with an auto in 1990 was doing 4500 rpm at 55 mph
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01-07-2018, 05:50 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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10mpg ?? I don't even get that in my pickup.
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01-07-2018, 06:20 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
great bus!!!
being a Hot-rodder myself I think slammed and unusual busses are kickass..
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Lol...maybe this will be of interest... https://youtu.be/2Wj-__O_yK0
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01-07-2018, 06:30 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Peak torque on that big block is390 @ 2,400 so it's preferred highway RPM should be 25-2600. Taller tires might be the easiest way to bring down the RPM's a bit.
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