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Old 03-12-2017, 07:54 PM   #1
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Am I INSANE???

I've always wanted to convert a bus to a camper and I think the Crowns are among the more unique looking rigs out there.
Well, last week I found this in the next town over...

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It's a 1974 Crown Supercoach 2R-566-11 with a "custom"(?) raised roof. It was used to transport Idaho National Laboratory employees around SE ID. The INL operates and maintains a fleet of busses for this and maintenance is always top notch. It has been mostly sitting for the last several years, but it is supposed to run and is started and moved from time-to-time. I haven't had the owner fire it up for me yet, I'm waiting until I'm sure I want to do this...

So, I know I'll need tires sooner than later, but I suppose that can wait while I get everything else sorted out. Most of the seats are gone already, but the rear row and one other row are still in it. Just enough!

It has a DD 8-71 engine w/ exhaust brake and 5-speed trans.

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What so I really need to look for? I want to finish gutting it, fix any metal work, wiring and insulation. Then heat (I'll remove the baseboard floor heaters), then A/C (the compressor is seized and the ceiling units are massive and intrusive), then start the rest of the interior. I'm thinking I can use bits from a wrecked RV.

Am I nuts for $3500???

John
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:04 PM   #2
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I've always wanted to convert a bus to a camper and I think the Crowns are among the more unique looking rigs out there.
Well, last week I found this in the next town over...

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It's a 1974 Crown Supercoach 2R-566-11 with a "custom"(?) raised roof. It was used to transport Idaho National Laboratory employees around SE ID. The INL operates and maintains a fleet of busses for this and maintenance is always top notch. It has been mostly sitting for the last several years, but it is supposed to run and is started and moved from time-to-time. I haven't had the owner fire it up for me yet, I'm waiting until I'm sure I want to do this...

So, I know I'll need tires sooner than later, but I suppose that can wait while I get everything else sorted out. Most of the seats are gone already, but the rear row and one other row are still in it. Just enough!

It has a DD 8-71 engine w/ exhaust brake and 5-speed trans.

Attachment 12612

What so I really need to look for? I want to finish gutting it, fix any metal work, wiring and insulation. Then heat (I'll remove the baseboard floor heaters), then A/C (the compressor is seized and the ceiling units are massive and intrusive), then start the rest of the interior. I'm thinking I can use bits from a wrecked RV.

Am I nuts for $3500???

John
You are nuts for not buying it!
If you're going to pass I would like the guys number!
You may want a second opinion. Cowlitzcoach has extensive knowledge on all things bus related. I bet he could steer you in the right direction.

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Old 03-12-2017, 09:03 PM   #3
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I'll fly out to ID next week if no one else jumps on that!
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:25 PM   #4
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I'll fly out to ID next week if no one else jumps on that!
I called next!

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Old 03-12-2017, 10:49 PM   #5
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That's an Atomic! Wonderful buses, but only distantly related to Crown's school buses, even the later pushers like mine. It has the 8V71, but it doesn't have an exhaust brake (they won't work on Detroit 2-strokes) but instead a real Jake Brake that works better than any exhaust brake ever could. Here's some info about them: BNO BBS - BNO's Bulletin Board System: Odd crown bus Louk Markham's definitive book on Crowns also has some info on them. The high roof is standard from the factory - it still has the usual interior headroom, but with HUGE underfloor storage bins because of the higher floor. This bus is well known to some of the Crown aficionados on the CCJ forum. A friend of mine has one, a perfect condition original from Idaho.

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Old 03-12-2017, 10:59 PM   #6
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I like it! I'm looking for another crown myself. I love the windows on that! Personally I'm looking foe the more traditional school bus Crown, a tandem to be specific just in case anyone know where one is hiding... But that thing sure is purdy and the price is right IMO
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:27 AM   #7
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You DON"T want that BUS!! The 8-71 is a POS! and the Crown in UGLY!!! AND it was used by a government "lab" in Idaho? I assume it is very radio-active! You shouldn't even have that thing in your STATE! Because I am such a good neighbor to the south (Utah); and we are used to such radio-active junk laying around, I am willing to drive up there and get it out of your area for you! Think about the CHILDREN!!
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:12 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info guys! As it stands, it looks like we'll be buying it.
I need to finish my basic research and maybe pay someone to inspect it, but I think it's a go!

Of course, if the plan falls through, I'll be sure to let you all know!

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Old 03-15-2017, 08:24 PM   #9
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That's an Atomic! Wonderful buses, but only distantly related to Crown's school buses, even the later pushers like mine. It has the 8V71, but it doesn't have an exhaust brake (they won't work on Detroit 2-strokes) but instead a real Jake Brake that works better than any exhaust brake ever could. Here's some info about them: BNO BBS - BNO's Bulletin Board System: Odd crown bus Louk Markham's definitive book on Crowns also has some info on them. The high roof is standard from the factory - it still has the usual interior headroom, but with HUGE underfloor storage bins because of the higher floor. This bus is well known to some of the Crown aficionados on the CCJ forum. A friend of mine has one, a perfect condition original from Idaho.

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Ooops... I misread your post.

That IS a beautiful bus.
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Yeah, get on that thing, man.

Just do whatever to make SURE you got DIBS man. IF anyone into buses gets over there with cash before you, you're not gona find a bus like that again. Not very easily. That's one supreme machine.
If you don't decide you like it, I'll take it off your hands.
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:30 PM   #11
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Yeah, get on that thing, man.

Just do whatever to make SURE you got DIBS man. IF anyone into buses gets over there with cash before you, you're not gona find a bus like that again. Not very easily. That's one supreme machine.
If you don't decide you like it, I'll take it off your hands.
I can't get out to Washington. It's too far and work won't help me out.

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