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05-16-2019, 12:52 PM
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#1
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: A bus
Posts: 104
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins 5.9 + Allison 3060
Rated Cap: Full size
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Bus A or B?
Which of these buses would you pick?
Bus A
2001 Thomas
183,000 miles
5.9 Cummins
Allison 3060
$6500
Bus B
2007 International
110,000 miles
DT 466
"Five speed overdrive transmission"
$7500
Both buses are 40', high top, actually no rust, just retired from school districts in salt-free area. No conversion work done yet to either. Comes with 24 hr guarantee. Seller converts skoolies for a living and also sells unconverted buses.
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05-16-2019, 01:12 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Claremont, NH
Posts: 467
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466E (195hp, 520tq)
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Given those 2, Bus A. The 2007 will have nasty emissions on the engine. However, prices on both seem about double what they should be.
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Dave
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05-16-2019, 02:19 PM
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#3
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 46
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Freighliner
Chassis: Fs-65
Engine: 5.9l cummins
Rated Cap: 36 passenger
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I would go with A. Ive got the cummins and get awsome mileage. And very easy to work on.
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05-16-2019, 02:45 PM
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#4
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: A bus
Posts: 104
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Engine: Cummins 5.9 + Allison 3060
Rated Cap: Full size
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ermracing
Given those 2, Bus A. The 2007 will have nasty emissions on the engine. However, prices on both seem about double what they should be.
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Where are you all finding these cheap buses? I have been looking in California, and prices generally are quite higher than I see others post.
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05-16-2019, 05:48 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,575
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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IDK which one, but in reply to cheaper buses, you can get them cheaper at auction, but you sure wouldn’t be getting 24 hours to try them.
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05-16-2019, 05:54 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,347
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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More likely than not the guy selling those busses has taken the time to go through them mechanically, to ensure you won't be bringing them back for a refund.
And that in itself is probably worth the cost differential over auction.
My 0.02= Bus "A"...
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05-16-2019, 06:14 PM
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#7
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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I would also choose Bus A but those are pricey.
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05-16-2019, 06:18 PM
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#8
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Bus A because it won't have the emission issues, but it's a dealer price for a $2500 bus. I would never give $6500 for anything with a 5.9 in it.
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05-16-2019, 06:30 PM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,575
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peteg59
More likely than not, the guy selling those busses has taken the time to go through them to ensure you won't be bringing them back for a refund.
And that in itself is probably worth the cost differential over auction.
My 0.02= Bus "A"...
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I agree that it’s worth the extra to check it out ahead. With a 24 hour trial, I think I’d get someone to look at the engine, transmission and electrical system during that time. I’d be checking that the turbo (in my case) isnt going out, or the tranny isnt about to go belly up.
And the thing is, the bus is only the beginning of the expenses so it’s worth while to get the right platform.
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05-16-2019, 06:30 PM
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#10
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Damascus, OR
Posts: 681
Year: 2004
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e w/ 2000 Allison Trans
Rated Cap: 35
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What part of Cali are you looking?
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05-16-2019, 07:30 PM
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#11
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,700
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
I agree that it’s worth the extra to check it out ahead. With a 24 hour trial, I think I’d get someone to look at the engine, transmission and electrical system during that time. I’d be checking that the turbo (in my case) isnt going out, or the tranny isnt about to go belly up.
And the thing is, the bus is only the beginning of the expenses so it’s worth while to get the right platform.
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For those prices I'd insist on air ride, 8.3 cummins, and maybe even ac.
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05-16-2019, 10:24 PM
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#12
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,327
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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That's WAY too much for either of them. Heck, I paid a lot less than that for my Crown! Offer a third, settle on a half, then you're good.
John
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05-17-2019, 01:32 PM
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#13
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 2,575
Year: 2007
Coachwork: Thomas Built
Chassis: Minotour
Engine: Chevy Express 3500 6.6l
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Expensive California Buses
Yeah, there’s a demand for California buses; pretty low miles a lot of the time, no rust, and that drives up the price. When I bought mine at auction, I found out that my competitors were shipping them to Mexico to become transit buses. A guy I know confirmed that in Tijuana all the transit buses are converted school buses. So it seems that this has driven up the auction price even on vehicles that can no longer be used commercially in California because of smog laws.
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05-17-2019, 04:28 PM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,141
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Danjo
Yeah, there’s a demand for California buses; pretty low miles a lot of the time, no rust, and that drives up the price. When I bought mine at auction, I found out that my competitors were shipping them to Mexico to become transit buses. A guy I know confirmed that in Tijuana all the transit buses are converted school buses. So it seems that this has driven up the auction price even on vehicles that can no longer be used commercially in California because of smog laws.
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a lot of texas busses go to mexico too however you still find decent deals there... i think people in california personally watch a Ton of TV shows and youtube and will pay anything to be part of the "trendy" crowd which means as a seller you can get what you want for good busses..
in general though school busses have gone through the roof in prices since it became a "trend" for tiny-homing and RV conversions... even as soon ago as 08 or 09 half the time people practically gsve school busses away... in fact in ohio is where school bus demo derby;s got real popular because after cash for clunkers used car prices went bonkers but school busses were a dime a dozen... every country house had a couple sitting around it seemed... couple hundred bucks got you a running driving bus with a title that could be registered.. because IHC scouts were very popular in ohio it was quite common to get an old bus snag the 392 out of it and scrap the bus for what you had in it.. a free engine for your scout..
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05-17-2019, 05:02 PM
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#15
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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I believe most of the buses that go to Mexico are just passing through on their way to Central and South America. All the SOB's I've dealt with were going to the area of the Honduras and Guatemala.
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05-25-2019, 10:16 PM
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#16
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Washoe Valley, NV
Posts: 16
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International Genesis
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 84
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The prices seem high based on what everyone on here says they pay for their buses but I've been looking for a bus for a while now and can't seem to find any under $6-7K.
Would love some advice on where to look for a used bus at a reasonable price.
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05-25-2019, 10:28 PM
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#17
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meandering Mitch
The prices seem high based on what everyone on here says they pay for their buses but I've been looking for a bus for a while now and can't seem to find any under $6-7K.
Would love some advice on where to look for a used bus at a reasonable price.
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where to look for a used bus
Type that into the search bar above on the skoolie site. There will be several threads on the subject with lists of places to watch. Your bus for your price is out there, it just might not be this week.
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05-26-2019, 12:00 AM
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#18
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Greater Boston
Posts: 504
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meandering Mitch
The prices seem high based on what everyone on here says they pay for their buses but I've been looking for a bus for a while now and can't seem to find any under $6-7K.
Would love some advice on where to look for a used bus at a reasonable price.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
where to look for a used bus
Type that into the search bar above on the skoolie site. There will be several threads on the subject with lists of places to watch. Your bus for your price is out there, it just might not be this week.
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I'm seeing the same things Mitch is.
I've looked at most of the suggestions I can find on here for places to look for buses -
If you want a 40' RE, you're golden.
A 40' dognose, and there are options.
Anything else and the pickings are. . . slim. It's all the new stuff with the emissions junk on it, or the low-spec stuff none of us want.
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