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01-11-2024, 04:17 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2024
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Dayton rims
Hi I'm new here , I may be in the wrong area I don't have a bus rather my vehicle is a 1934 2 ton IH truck why I ended here is im trying to find a one piece replacement for my Dayton split rims , is there such a rim if I'm on the wrong site I apologize in advance.
Greg
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01-11-2024, 04:31 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,873
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 29
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This is a bus conversion site. Some buses are simply medium sized duty trucks with bus cabins on them. However something that old, 1934, people on here aren't likely to know the answer to that.
What you can do is since it's an international harvestor, is call Navistar and ask for a part number, then you can search on the net for one. They won't have such a part in stock, but someone on the net will have an after market. The part number will lead you there. Even if there isn't a number on the item (as it's old it likely doesn't) Navistar should have an internal number that others would use for such a part for searching purposes. Call any International/Navistar stealership, and ask for parts department, and tell them what you are looking for is a part number for X.
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01-11-2024, 05:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 669
Coachwork: Busless for now
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There are lots of folks here familiar with Dayton wheels going back many decades
I think you should get useful info soon.
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01-11-2024, 06:32 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Central Tx.
Posts: 2,474
Year: 1999
Chassis: Amtran / International
Engine: DT466E HT 250HP - Md3060
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Good reading in this thread
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f10/s...ton-38600.html
Post #2, give Magnakansas a call, he posted his number. He is real good on helping people work thru these types of issues.
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01-11-2024, 06:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 669
Coachwork: Busless for now
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Zackly, Ewo!! William is a valuable resource
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01-11-2024, 08:55 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,109
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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dayton is a hub and the wheels can be tubeless (1 piece ) or 2 and even 3 piece rims (tube type) . the tube type is being phased out and tire shops are not training thier techs to work on them. you can just exchange the tube type with the tubeless easy. the name split rim is often mistakenly used on these wheels and was a rim that actually split in its center and is long gone. now there is a good chance your 32 probaly does use those split rims. measure your center hole , bolt pattern and offset to find rims if its a hub mount but if its a wedge mount it might be harder to find. do you have any pics of the rims (both sides)
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01-11-2024, 09:04 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,421
Year: 1971
Coachwork: Wayne
Chassis: International Loadstar 1600
Engine: 6v-53n detroit
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I have had and still do have International trucks from the 60's and 70's. Yours is old enough to have a narrow rim. What size tires are on it? I am guessing it may well be a 7.50 X 20. You can keep the spoked center and replace just the rim with 22.5" tubeless tires and rims. Backspacing might be an issue though. 7.5" rim width is available, and might work. You will just have to borrow a rim and try it to see if it clears the tie rod ends on the front axle, and the springs on the back axle. On the loadstar series it is not any problem at all, even the 8.25" rim width will work running 10R22.5 or 11R22.5
I am currently restoring/rebuilding a 1973 International bus on a 1600 chassis.
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01-12-2024, 12:44 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2018
Location: topeka kansas
Posts: 1,818
Year: 1954
Coachwork: wayne
Chassis: old f500- new 2005 f-450
Engine: cummins 12 valve
Rated Cap: 20? five rows of 4?
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One piece Dayton rims
The correct diameter one piece rim, is 22.5”. The narrowest I have seen is 7.5”
As old you have, I would think about 6” or 6.5” is your rim width.
I have never seen a rim conversion on this old of an axle.
I suggest you get two rims and try bolting one on a front hub and then two on
the back hub. Look and see if you have clearance. Frame, springs, body. Any
other bits firmly attached to the bus.
The rear tires need to NOT touch each other in a loaded condition. TIRES, not rims. Can not touch. This usually happens at the bottom.
I bought my 22.5”x7.5” rims from salvage yard. About $75 each if I remember correctly. Wire brush, acetone wipe down. Rattle can primer, then gloss enamel paint on that. A couple of coats. A new slick paint surface gives a better bead area seal than old rusty metal. I mounted mine the old fashioned way with tire spoons. I chained the rim to another rim on another bus when I inflated to full pressure. To seat the beads I only needed about 5 psi.
William
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01-12-2024, 08:01 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,974
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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william,
when I got my DEV bus it came with 6.75" single piece 22.5" rims and 10R tires.. i wanted to go to an 11R tire and my hubs are modern enough (1990) to take a 7.5" rim so we swapped out the rims.. but the originals were 6.75", the spacer had to be swapped as well.. so 6.75" did exist..
im not sure what rim width the bus came with originally, it was spec'd in 1990 with 2 piece retainer ring 20" rims and 9x20 tires, it has been converted before i got it..
i got the used 7.5" wide x 22.5" rims dirt cheap as apparently they are a standard trailer rim on semi trucks.
some of the older dayton spokes ive seen were 6 spoke, so im guessing those would need a different rear spacer possibly?
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01-12-2024, 01:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Swansboro,NC
Posts: 3,153
Year: 86
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Ford B700
Engine: 8.2
Rated Cap: 60 bodies
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look at dayton split ring rim replacements on the ALCOA website.
not particularly cheap but you know exactly the condition of what you get.
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01-18-2024, 03:26 PM
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#11
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 7
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Dayton tubeless rim
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornbinder34
Hi I'm new here , I may be in the wrong area I don't have a bus rather my vehicle is a 1934 2 ton IH truck why I ended here is im trying to find a one piece replacement for my Dayton split rims , is there such a rim if I'm on the wrong site I apologize in advance.
Greg
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Yes there is a replacement for the split rim; it's called the Dayton tubeless rim. I have them on my 1994 School Bus.
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