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06-17-2021, 06:53 PM
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#141
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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An antenna from Amazon
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06-17-2021, 06:54 PM
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#142
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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And another stubby one. Both are crap.
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06-17-2021, 06:55 PM
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#143
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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If anyone is interested in the designs, let me know.
The DIY ones are made to cover the T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon bands as well as I could.
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06-17-2021, 06:58 PM
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#144
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Finnie shows a major dip around 2150MHz.
I also did measurements from 600 to 900MHz, to cover the frequencies used in rural areas. Particularly T-Mobile uses low frequencies, the lowest of all, starting at 617MHz - the famous Band 71.
The preliminary conclusion is that my own DIY designs seem to perform quite a lot better than the sub-$100 antennas from Amazon.
I'm trained in radio engineering so this is perhaps rather obscure stuff for many, but since internet-on-the-go is an essential part of the skoolie thing, I thought it to be appropriate to share it here, and perhaps I can help out some people with what I have learned.
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06-18-2021, 06:51 AM
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#145
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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The $399 inverter showed up so I did some quick tests.
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06-18-2021, 06:52 AM
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#146
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Idle current at 22.5V
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06-18-2021, 06:52 AM
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#147
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Idle current at 26.5V
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06-18-2021, 06:53 AM
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#148
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Idle current at 28.5V
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06-18-2021, 06:54 AM
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#149
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Unloaded waveform
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06-18-2021, 07:00 AM
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#150
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Does not automatically recover from an under voltage condition. That’s annoying.
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06-18-2021, 08:23 AM
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#151
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Load on the power supply at 22.5V with a 100W lightbulb that draws pretty much exactly 100W on the AC side.
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06-18-2021, 08:24 AM
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#152
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
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With median input voltage
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06-18-2021, 08:24 AM
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#153
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
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At the maximum input voltage
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06-18-2021, 08:30 AM
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#154
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Finally, a higher current load test. My big LiFePO4 batteries are in the bus, far away from here, so I rigged up a few NMC cells for a higher current test. These 8Ah cells can do 25C continuously, so running the heater at 1.5kW doesn’t impress them much.
The interconnections won’t win prizes, but I just wanted to see the waveform.
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06-18-2021, 08:32 AM
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#155
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
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Chassis: G27E102
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Gillig 30ft Low Floor - the journey starts
At 1.5kW, the THD went down, interestingly enough.
Alright, that’s all I had time for, it’ll go into the bus next weekend.
Conclusion:
- Idle current (at room temperature) runs between 17 and 23W
- does not recover automatically from a low-voltage shutdown. A bone piercing shriek makes sure everyone within half a mile will know about it.
- the loaded efficiency at 100W seems good, if you accept the ~20W quiescent draw
- the waveform is pretty ugly at idle and low draws, but improves at kilowatt-level loads.
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06-18-2021, 08:53 AM
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#156
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,511
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Thanks for doing the measurements ... I settled a couple of years ago on that brand.. mainly because it is a modular design and relative easy to get to the components to repair...the power components are on the outside of the heatsink.....I blew one up after messing with the current regulation in an attempt to eek another 300 watt out of it... Company sent me free MOSFETs or igbt's..I forgot...and a free oscillator control board.
Johan
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06-20-2021, 06:41 PM
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#157
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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I had to open the inverter already because the display had popped out. Hot glue isn’t quite the high grade mounting system I would have gone for…
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06-20-2021, 06:43 PM
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#158
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
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Gillig 30ft Low Floor - the journey starts
Apart from that, it looks like you would expect. But there’s no way that this thing can put out 5kW for any length of time. 800w each trough those tiny E-cores?
It works fine though. Starts my miter saw without complaints.
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06-20-2021, 06:45 PM
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#159
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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I did some fresh water tank puzzling, and cut some XPS panels too.
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06-20-2021, 06:47 PM
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#160
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 638
Year: 2009
Coachwork: Gillig
Chassis: G27E102
Engine: Cummins ISL 280
Rated Cap: 26,000 lbs
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Since I’m doing my conversion off grid, I needed to lay out the panels.
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