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02-14-2016, 03:52 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
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Hello from Kingston Ontario
Hi all, just bought a short school bus with a wheelchair door and lift that I'm planning to convert into a camper. Ideas I'm tossing around include a slide out from the wheelchair door, or using it as access to an outdoor cooking area or using the working wheelchair lift and back 5 ft as a storage area/garage for a Vespa. Anyone have any other ideas??
Thanks!!
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02-14-2016, 09:18 PM
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#2
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
Posts: 2,233
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Most school bus wheelchair lifts have a weight capacity of 750-1000 lbs.
Make your decision based on that sort of limitation.
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02-15-2016, 09:53 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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welcome fellow Canadian , can't really help you with the wheel chair lift, good to see some one else from Ontario, make sure you can get insurance and registered before you start sinking money into it.
gbstewart
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02-15-2016, 10:29 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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Welcome --- A number of folks either delete the (heavy) chair lift to gain some interior space or use it to hoist their scooters or motorcycles into their buses. As long as you stay within the units weight limits it will be fine.
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02-15-2016, 11:05 AM
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#5
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
welcome fellow Canadian , can't really help you with the wheel chair lift, good to see some one else from Ontario, make sure you can get insurance and registered before you start sinking money into it.
gbstewart
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May I ask how you got things sorted it with your own? I'm getting a really hard time from my own insurance company myself.
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02-15-2016, 11:06 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowlitzcoach
Most school bus wheelchair lifts have a weight capacity of 750-1000 lbs.
Make your decision based on that sort of limitation.
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Thanks. Yes I'm thinking maybe even a dirt bike instead!!
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02-15-2016, 11:55 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffG
May I ask how you got things sorted it with your own? I'm getting a really hard time from my own insurance company myself.
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I had to have most of the conversion finished, water, bathroom, heat, kitchen, then they sent some one over to inspect it, I had it registered as a rv all ready, I got lucky there, small town MTO just put it as a rv even before I got the seats out!!!, get the safety check before you start, you can still transfer it into your name while you do the conversion, it will be hard to get a Ontario safety if you wait. go to the MTO web site, there is a list of what you need in it to consider it a RV. i'm with allstate insurance but now they say the no longer insure skoolies, i'm grandfathered in, the co-operators list converted buses on there site.
gbstewart
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02-15-2016, 12:00 PM
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#8
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4
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Perfect. Thanks! I'll try the cooperators tomorrow.
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02-15-2016, 12:51 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
I had to have most of the conversion finished, water, bathroom, heat, kitchen, then they sent some one over to inspect it, I had it registered as a rv all ready, I got lucky there, small town MTO just put it as a rv even before I got the seats out!!!, get the safety check before you start, you can still transfer it into your name while you do the conversion, it will be hard to get a Ontario safety if you wait. go to the MTO web site, there is a list of what you need in it to consider it a RV. i'm with allstate insurance but now they say the no longer insure skoolies, i'm grandfathered in, the co-operators list converted buses on there site.
gbstewart
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I just went and looked (I was curious to compare with Quebec's SAAQ laws) and I can't say the MTO's site is very well made.
Where the hell is that list? I searched for "motorhome licence" "rebuilt motorhome" etc... nothing!
They say you need that safety certification, but no link to it...
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02-15-2016, 03:00 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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After I had mine painted I had an e test and safety done, went to the ministry to get it put in my name. Showed the lady behind the counter a pic and she asked me "do you have 4 of the 6 criteria needed to make it a Motor Home"?...paused for a second and said yes, I have 5 of the 6. [there all in a shed or the garage]...but I do have them. So she gave me a new ownership with green as the colour and MH instead of bus. Now my insurance company wants an appraisal before they will insure it.....did it in Brampton....on my way home, don't live there.
GB, where in Ont. do you call home?
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02-15-2016, 03:02 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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you need a safety to put it in your name, do so asap, you can register it as not on the road, much better to get that done, cause chances are if you do a conversion no mechanic will safety it, unless its done by a body shop, good luck with that. as for mto web site ya I can't find the info any more, but I do have a print out of it, and I tried the www. address and it doesn't work anymore, but it says; Motor Home;
a motor vehicle that is used for personal purposes as a temporary or permanent residence and contains at least four of the following items; Cooking facilities, a refrigerator or ice box, a self-contained toilet, a heating or air conditioning system, an independent electrical power supply or an independent gas supply or a potable water supply system with a faucet and a sink. Note; 'a van camper' is essentially a-plated passenger van and as such is subject to the same rules as a passenger van or car.
there that's what I have from the mto web site back in 2/18/2011 when I found it. boy am I glad I kept a copy and keep it in the bus.
gbstewart
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02-15-2016, 03:04 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDD
After I had mine painted I had an e test and safety done, went to the ministry to get it put in my name. Showed the lady behind the counter a pic and she asked me "do you have 4 of the 6 criteria needed to make it a Motor Home"?...paused for a second and said yes, I have 5 of the 6. [there all in a shed or the garage]...but I do have them. So she gave me a new ownership with green as the colour and MH instead of bus. Now my insurance company wants an appraisal before they will insure it.....did it in Brampton....on my way home, don't live there.
GB, where in Ont. do you call home?
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i'm in northwestern Ontario, about 3 hours from the Manitoba boarder
gbstewart
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02-15-2016, 03:20 PM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: ...little north of Toronto Ontario
Posts: 606
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Thomsass
Chassis: FreightShaker
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 5 speed
Rated Cap: 2 ATV's and friends
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OK then, way out there! My old man's from the Red lake area [as he puts it "butt f..k no where, then turn left"]
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02-15-2016, 04:45 PM
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#14
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbstewart
Motor Home;
a motor vehicle that is used for personal purposes as a temporary or permanent residence and contains at least four of the following items; Cooking facilities, a refrigerator or ice box, a self-contained toilet, a heating or air conditioning system, an independent electrical power supply or an independent gas supply or a potable water supply system with a faucet and a sink. Note; 'a van camper' is essentially a-plated passenger van and as such is subject to the same rules as a passenger van or car.
there that's what I have from the mto web site back in 2/18/2011 when I found it. boy am I glad I kept a copy and keep it in the bus.
gbstewart
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Wow.
I might have to register my bus with my brother in Ont. when I make the move!
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02-15-2016, 06:37 PM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REDD
OK then, way out there! My old man's from the Red lake area [as he puts it "butt f..k no where, then turn left"]
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Red Lake is about 3 hours from me, nice place, I'm Sioux Lookout, I'm sure your friend has heard about.
gbstewart
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02-15-2016, 09:57 PM
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#16
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,208
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: 3800 International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffG
Perfect. Thanks! I'll try the cooperators tomorrow.
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keep us posted on how you make out with them.
tks
gbstewart
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