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02-02-2018, 11:20 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 150
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Hello from south Georgia
The bug has bitten me too. I've long thought about converting a school bus, but hadn't gotten much past dreaming until discovering this forum. Now, it's gotten a whole lot more serious. I'm in the midst of watching auctions, reading forums, getting insurance and tag quotes, drawing up floor plans, etc. I think I want a 1999ish Blue Bird TC2000 if it can be had in good condition with good tires for under $5000. I don't think factory air is needed since I want to go with a dual zone mini-split heatpump. I think I want a small diesel generator to keep from having to buy gas.
So much to read - I'm trying to learn as much as possible to lessen the inevitable mistakes.
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02-03-2018, 12:38 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrailLifeBill
The bug has bitten me too. I've long thought about converting a school bus, but hadn't gotten much past dreaming until discovering this forum. Now, it's gotten a whole lot more serious. I'm in the midst of watching auctions, reading forums, getting insurance and tag quotes, drawing up floor plans, etc. I think I want a 1999ish Blue Bird TC2000 if it can be had in good condition with good tires for under $5000. I don't think factory air is needed since I want to go with a dual zone mini-split heatpump. I think I want a small diesel generator to keep from having to buy gas.
So much to read - I'm trying to learn as much as possible to lessen the inevitable mistakes.
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Once bitten there's no cure...welcome to skoolieville[emoji41]
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02-03-2018, 12:44 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Why a TC and not an All American? The TC was the cheap line of Bluebirds.
A decent TC should be 2-3 grand.
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02-03-2018, 03:12 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
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It says the 2nd one don't run
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02-03-2018, 04:18 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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Didn't even notice that, lol. Oops
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02-03-2018, 05:20 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjhwick119
Didn't even notice that, lol. Oops
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People helping people
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02-03-2018, 07:04 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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Welcome and good luck on your search. Don't rush into it.
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02-03-2018, 12:10 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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How far are you willing to travel for the right bus?
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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02-05-2018, 11:28 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 150
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
How far are you willing to travel for the right bus?
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There are lots of them available in the 300-400 mile area around me. Since I'm still leashed to a full-time job, that would probably be my limit. Also, don't want to go north because of road salt/rust issues.
I have been looking at those on govdeals from Pell City, AL - they look well cared for.
I think I want to avoid a pusher for the following reasons:
1) I want a 2-3' garage in the rear.
2) I've read that it's pricier to repair because everything is harder to access. TC2000 isn't as easy to work on as conventional, but seems like a good compromise between the two.
OK, tell me where I'm mistaken.....
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02-05-2018, 11:39 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrailLifeBill
There are lots of them available in the 300-400 mile area around me. Since I'm still leashed to a full-time job, that would probably be my limit. Also, don't want to go north because of road salt/rust issues.
I have been looking at those on govdeals from Pell City, AL - they look well cared for.
I think I want to avoid a pusher for the following reasons:
1) I want a 2-3' garage in the rear.
2) I've read that it's pricier to repair because everything is harder to access. TC2000 isn't as easy to work on as conventional, but seems like a good compromise between the two.
OK, tell me where I'm mistaken.....
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All I'd argue with is labor on the engine.
The most difficult to access is a front engine transit. The rear engine is very easy to get at most things, and the conventional is easy when the hood is removed. With the hood in place lots of stuff is hard to reach.
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02-05-2018, 11:45 PM
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#12
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Sounds like a plan to me. I've got about a 6' garage in the back of my TC1000. This is a 26' 9 window handi bus. They also produce the TC2000 in a 28' model. Lots of choices out there.
I'd say you're on the right track. Sounds like you're basically building something like I'm building with a garage in the back. I consider mine to be a fishing shack with garage.
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Nobody's Business
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02-06-2018, 02:48 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
All I'd argue with is labor on the engine.
The most difficult to access is a front engine transit. The rear engine is very easy to get at most things, and the conventional is easy when the hood is removed. With the hood in place lots of stuff is hard to reach.
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What's hard to reach?
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02-06-2018, 07:44 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
What's hard to reach?
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Anything you have to lean over a wheel to get to.
My F150 is bad enough. The rear engine on my bus is easier. It remains true that a CE is the easiest though, especially once the hood is out of the way.
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02-06-2018, 07:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Anything you have to lean over a wheel to get to.
My F150 is bad enough. The rear engine on my bus is easier. It remains true that a CE is the easiest though, especially once the hood is out of the way.
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You don't lean on the wheel, you can stand on either side of it, or on top of it.
CE is by far the easiest for working on it.
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02-06-2018, 07:53 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
You don't lean on the wheel, you can stand on either side of it, or on top of it.
CE is by far the easiest for working on it.
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Well yes.
I was merely correcting the OP who was indicating that, of the three, the RE was the hardest.
If I was wrong about that I apologize.
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02-06-2018, 08:18 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 1,109
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 65 pax
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Come meet us!
If you want to come down to central Florida and get some inspiration, we are having a skoolie get together 2 weekends from now.
https://www.facebook.com/events/373939663017866/
Sandi
p.s. there is a thread on here, but I couldn't find it with the search function
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02-06-2018, 08:22 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WanderWoman
If you want to come down to central Florida and get some inspiration, we are having a skoolie get together 2 weekends from now.
https://www.facebook.com/events/373939663017866/
Sandi
p.s. there is a thread on here, but I couldn't find it with the search function
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Sounds cool...wish I could...I don't have FB btw
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02-06-2018, 08:26 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
Well yes.
I was merely correcting the OP who was indicating that, of the three, the RE was the hardest.
If I was wrong about that I apologize.
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Well there's no wrong, its just a discussion of opinions.
I've not had an RE as I need a CE or FE.
I'd imagine from easiest to hardest for engine access it would go CE, RE, then FE.
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02-07-2018, 07:24 AM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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