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Old 02-01-2020, 08:00 AM   #1
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Hello!... I think I found a bus!

Hi All! Newbie here. I think I found a bus worth working for, but, before I go any further, I'd like to get your .02 cents on this 3800: https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...=3&acctid=9172

I realize it being an '04 with a DT466 may trigger some eye-rolls and advice on what engine is better.

What I am not clear on:
- no wheel wells- doest this mean smaller wheels? Stiffer suspension? Any other perks? challenges?
-Not sure what transmission this has.
-Is it concerning that the engine was rebuilt in 2011?

Any input/suggestions would be appreciated!

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Old 02-01-2020, 01:12 PM   #2
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-Not sure what transmission this has.
Ad says it's a 2000-series, which is good.

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-Is it concerning that the engine was rebuilt in 2011?
No, that's a good thing.

I'd be concerned by the fact that it's an Ohio bus and there are no pics of the underside - rusts never sleeps, as they say.
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Old 02-01-2020, 01:17 PM   #3
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Wheel wells have never bothered me. What does is a harsh ride.
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Old 02-01-2020, 01:47 PM   #4
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Wheel wells have never bothered me. What does is a harsh ride.
Is the harsh ride true for all buses without wheel wells? Even with air bags?
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Any thoughts on the mid exhaust?
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Old 02-01-2020, 02:28 PM   #6
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Is the harsh ride true for all buses without wheel wells? Even with air bags?
Air ride helps. The lower the bus the rougher it rides, generally.
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Old 02-01-2020, 05:07 PM   #7
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It will have 'low profile' tires, 275 or 255/70r22.5 like ours. The flat floor makes the build easier, but you will probably have lots of chair rails to remove too. Rust is the big concern on it. We bought ours from south eastern VA, no rust.
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It will have 'low profile' tires, 275 or 255/70r22.5 like ours. The flat floor makes the build easier, but you will probably have lots of chair rails to remove too. Rust is the big concern on it. We bought ours from south eastern VA, no rust.
The ones with 22.5's ride better than the ones on 19.5's.
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Old 02-02-2020, 11:46 AM   #9
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It will have 'low profile' tires, 275 or 255/70r22.5 like ours. The flat floor makes the build easier, but you will probably have lots of chair rails to remove too. Rust is the big concern on it. We bought ours from south eastern VA, no rust.
Apparently they're 1100x22.5

Hoping it's as clean and rust free as advertised!

Looks like we're only a few hours apart. I'd love to see your bus in person sometime. Love the photo album of the build!
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