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08-11-2017, 11:11 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 3
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I did it now I have an air door question
Has anyone come up with a way to secure the air doors? I have bought a 98 International 3800 DT466E. I'd really like to keep the doors but I don't want to use a padlock. I'd like to be able to lock it from the inside as well as the outside, has anyone come up with a solution they're using?
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08-11-2017, 11:32 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 3
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How cool is that - I'm in Prince George, Va. Thanks for that I'm picturing that on the inside of the door that overlaps on the outside - and a locking handle?
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08-11-2017, 11:36 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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I'll post pictures of hardware.
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08-11-2017, 11:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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Sorry had to use Google Drive.
http://www.skoolie.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18837
The "D" handle is inside, "T" handle is outside.
2 long rods get fitted to pins that rotate moving rods up n down.
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08-12-2017, 12:06 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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08-12-2017, 04:26 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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This is where I first saw the Atlantic shed latch used, in a video posted by this skoolie builder.
https://www.facebook.com/LeDiableRougeBus/
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08-12-2017, 06:03 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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My Bluebird has a factory-installed lock. I don't know where you would get it but it basically is a pin that is cable-actuated to the top of the door with a lock cylinder on the outside of the door. I have a latch on the inside to keep people out when the door is locked from the inside.
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08-29-2017, 08:46 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Green Bay Wi
Posts: 8
Year: 1998
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: 9 window handy bus
Engine: 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 18 and 2 wheelchairs
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Newbie
What about lock for non accordion doors....the two panels centers swing out? 98 bluebird handi bus
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08-29-2017, 10:20 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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My doors are 2 panel swing outs. They overlap and are mechanically connected. If one is locked the other won't open.
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08-30-2017, 04:17 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,527
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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That is similar hardware as I used in Elfie. Up-cycled from the junkyard. :smile. Made a cut in the lowest door step and bend the lip down as to get more resistance against wear through vibration.
Later j
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09-06-2017, 06:43 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Just a word of advice, When you start your bus MAKE SURE the switch for your door is in the open postion before stepping out while waiting for things to build up. I once started the bus & stepped out & a few minutes later was walking back & the door was about 3/4 closed & had to use all my strength to hold the door enough to squeeze thru, Another member a year or so ago did the same thing only his door was closed when he got to the door, I think his bus idled for a couple days while trying to figure out how to get in .
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09-06-2017, 06:53 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu & Filo. T
Just a word of advice, When you start your bus MAKE SURE the switch for your door is in the open postion before stepping out while waiting for things to build up. I once started the bus & stepped out & a few minutes later was walking back & the door was about 3/4 closed & had to use all my strength to hold the door enough to squeeze thru, Another member a year or so ago did the same thing only his door was closed when he got to the door, I think his bus idled for a couple days while trying to figure out how to get in .
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OMG I did this the very first time I started it and the air had to build up... Luckily I had the emergency exit unlocked. Good tip!
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09-06-2017, 07:01 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
OMG I did this the very first time I started it and the air had to build up... Luckily I had the emergency exit unlocked. Good tip!
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Mine also except The bus was backed into its parking spot sot the rear door was only 5 inches away from the fence.
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09-06-2017, 10:13 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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factory air door should have an override switch that "unpowers" the door so you can close it manually while the bus is running
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09-06-2017, 10:15 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
factory air door should have an override switch that "unpowers" the door so you can close it manually while the bus is running
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Yes, on mine it's the same switch, 3 position, on the dash.
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09-06-2017, 11:07 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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well my only experience with air doors was eagles or MCI's, the override switch was in the stairwell by the door
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09-07-2017, 07:12 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,516
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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if you have an air door can you get underneath and let the air out of the tanks to gain entry?
-Christopher
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09-07-2017, 07:51 AM
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#19
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
if you have an air door can you get underneath and let the air out of the tanks to gain entry?
-Christopher
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They take a lot longer to leak down on my boss then the tanks. And if the engine is running I don't know if you could keep up with it.
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09-07-2017, 07:55 AM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 19,516
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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true they probably have a check valve. I know on mine if I open all 3 tank valves i can definitely drain more air than the compressor can pump.. at least at idle.
-Christopher
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