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02-11-2018, 01:40 PM
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#141
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
I remember seeing this at a trade show when it first came out, and wondering just how big the inventor's balls were when it came time to prove the concept.
I used to work with a guy that had his fingers saved by this device.....not just once, but twice over a 5 year period. I *think* he was fired after the second occurrence.
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He didn't need balls, he used a piece of sausage.
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02-11-2018, 02:35 PM
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#142
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Traveling
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Midwest
Posts: 2,573
Year: 2003
Coachwork: BlueBird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: 5.9L Cummins
Rated Cap: '00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
I remember seeing this at a trade show when it first came out, and wondering just how big the inventor's balls were when it came time to prove the concept.
I used to work with a guy that had his fingers saved by this device.....not just once, but twice over a 5 year period. I *think* he was fired after the second occurrence.
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I put a lot of faith in technology- my car, for one. I just could never be convinced of that level of trust.
I used to run a cnc machine in a cabinet shop & one of my duties was to make templates for the shaper guy. Tough, old Mexican dude missing tops of 3 fingers. A shaper is 5-hp router table w/ a spinning bit the size of a baseball that he'd freehand-feed wood into. Cajones.
I asked him what it feels like when the blade removes the fingers- he said it feels real hot- heat sensation.
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02-11-2018, 03:43 PM
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#143
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty
I just could never be convinced of that level of trust.
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Same here. No matter how much I KNEW it would work, there's no way I could have finally stuck my finger in there.
Would've probably tried to hire someone to do it......wonder how much that would have cost?
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02-13-2018, 04:13 PM
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#144
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: SW New Hampshire
Posts: 1,334
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I can go both ways on the SawStop. No argument that it improves safety. But, the guy who invented it lawyered his competition (a garage inventor - one man band) out of business, and lawyered his contraption into the EPA regs. I don't like people who work like that.
His solution adds several hundred dollars to the cost of the saw, and you have to buy it from him, which is hundreds more. The competing idea was an electronic box that used back EMF to stop the motor when something the temperature of a live human was detected within an 1/8th inch of the blade. Granted, it took 100-125 msec to stop the blade, but would you wear a band-aid in return for not having to buy a replacement shotgun cartridge for $70 plus a new sawblade? Not to mention having to buy a new table saw to get the safety device in the first place.
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02-13-2018, 04:52 PM
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#145
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan-fox
I can go both ways on the SawStop. No argument that it improves safety. But, the guy who invented it lawyered his competition (a garage inventor - one man band) out of business, and lawyered his contraption into the EPA regs. I don't like people who work like that.
His solution adds several hundred dollars to the cost of the saw, and you have to buy it from him, which is hundreds more. The competing idea was an electronic box that used back EMF to stop the motor when something the temperature of a live human was detected within an 1/8th inch of the blade. Granted, it took 100-125 msec to stop the blade, but would you wear a band-aid in return for not having to buy a replacement shotgun cartridge for $70 plus a new sawblade? Not to mention having to buy a new table saw to get the safety device in the first place.
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That saw wouldn't work in anything over 97° weather, i'm sure the teeth get hotter than that in seconds after cutting. Theory doesn't sound viable.
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02-13-2018, 05:19 PM
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#146
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: SW New Hampshire
Posts: 1,334
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Good point. I'll see if I can get better info from the source. I've got it bookmarked at home. Perhaps it's a break-the-beam type of thing, but I seem to remember that it could discriminate between a finger and a screwdriver (and material being pushed through the sawblade).
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02-13-2018, 08:27 PM
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#147
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Wright City MO
Posts: 280
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins/Allison
Rated Cap: 74
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Talking about belief in your product weather its true or not I saw a video of a guy drinking the effluent from his septic tank to prove how well the treatment system worked did not have a chlorine injector on it.
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Its hard to be wrong when you live in Wright City!
There is no mechanical problem that cannot be overcome by a skillfully applied combination of brute force and ignorance!
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02-13-2018, 08:37 PM
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#148
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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And we honor him postimously for believing in his product.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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02-25-2018, 08:48 AM
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#149
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Skoolie Q&A
My perspective on a few things Skoolie related: screws and fasteners, insulations, and wiring decisions.
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02-28-2018, 09:20 AM
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#150
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 973
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plfking
Same here. No matter how much I KNEW it would work, there's no way I could have finally stuck my finger in there.
Would've probably tried to hire someone to do it......wonder how much that would have cost? [emoji2]
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That depends on how hard they tweaking...
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03-04-2018, 09:56 PM
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#151
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Cargo Box Transplant
Having pulled these cargo boxes down to make room for my black tank, I ended up transplanting them to another place on the bus.
In my experience, under-bus storage is never completely dry when driving in serious rain, so I'll likely use them for things that can get wet: the RV dump hose is down there now, but my dream is to store tools in tubs down there one day.
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05-27-2018, 10:23 PM
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#152
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Prison Bus Video #31 is Live
Did a bit more work on the prison bus ...
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06-11-2018, 02:05 PM
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#153
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Folding Couch for the Prison Bus
An overview of how I built my flipping folder of a couch. Plans should be up soon for those who like such things:
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06-14-2018, 05:41 PM
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#154
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Plans for Folding Plywood Couch
Hi all,
I drew up some plans for the folding couch I posted about last time:
https://etsy.me/2t7JLpi
Spencer
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07-05-2018, 09:09 PM
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#155
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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New Video Up ... Receptacles and Other Finish Work
Tuned up the receptacles and switches on the prison bus ... starting to feel like home.
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07-14-2018, 04:33 PM
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#156
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Sliding Barn Door and Drawers on the Prison Bus
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07-14-2018, 06:51 PM
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#157
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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What didn't work on the door?
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07-14-2018, 06:58 PM
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#158
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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joints
Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
What didn't work on the door?
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The joints just weren't as tight as I was hoping for ... I think I've gotta use router bits or chisels from now on. On the table saw, the tenons just end up too messy.
Next time!
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07-14-2018, 07:09 PM
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#159
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Biscuits and glue?
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07-14-2018, 07:28 PM
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#160
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: IL
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Never coached any teams, not even junior soccer
Chassis: I'm still figuring out what this means
Engine: CAT diesel
Rated Cap: No caps, only hats.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Biscuits and glue?
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I should have gone that route, as my biscuit joiner usually dials things in really well! Instead, I was trying to do grooves and tenons ... dang imprecision caught up with me!
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