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05-28-2018, 07:08 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Mom & Son short bus project
Hello! My 16 year old son Julian has dreamed about converting a school bus for years. When I was his age my dad and I restored a 1966 Mustang that we bought for $600, and I'm excited to do a similar deep-dive into this project with him. He originally wanted a full-size bus, but I've really encouraged him to consider a short bus for these reasons- easier for a new driver to drive, smaller project to complete, better gas milage (?), and plenty of room for one or two people. Please let me know if any of my arguments for a short bus are false-after looking at all the cool builds here, the 3/4 buses are looking awfully appealing too!
I have found a couple short busses to bid on in our home state of Kentucky- would love any input y'all have on them.
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...76&acctid=3933
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2101408
I've been reading so much already on the forums and I have to say I think I may be bitten by the bus bug- has anyone built out two busses at once? (One for him and his young-adult travels, and one for the rest of us in the family?!)
We own a bagel and coffee shop in central Kentucky, any folks heading through on I-75, look us up for free breakfast in exchange for a bus tour!
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05-30-2018, 01:06 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2018
Location: topeka kansas
Posts: 1,701
Year: 1954
Coachwork: wayne
Chassis: old f500- new 2005 f-450
Engine: cummins 12 valve
Rated Cap: 20? five rows of 4?
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short bus or two
I am building a short bus. Mine is a 1954 ford. However I intend to use it as people hauler.
I think many people here have had more than one bus. Some of us more than one bus at a time... I would go as far as to say there are one or two people with than five each...... It can become an affliction.
william
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05-30-2018, 01:16 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,700
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I'm a BIG fan of shorties.
I've had two. The one I've got now is pretty sweet. I do need to repair a few things but that's another story.
For a weekend camper, cruiser, daily driver, or whatever you can dream up a short FULL sized chassis school bus is hard to beat.
The ones based on van chassis are ok, but nowhere near as stout as a full size chassis.
Here's my lil bus-
With a 1/2 bus you get a whole lot more parking options than with a 40' behemoth. That's one BIG reason for me. I live in town and like to drive my bus to Lowes, Starbucks, or wherever.
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05-30-2018, 01:39 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fayetteville Arkansas
Posts: 419
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: GMC G3500 Vandura
Engine: V-8 5.7L Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagelBus
Hello! My 16 year old son Julian has dreamed about converting a school bus for years. When I was his age my dad and I restored a 1966 Mustang that we bought for $600, and I'm excited to do a similar deep-dive into this project with him. He originally wanted a full-size bus, but I've really encouraged him to consider a short bus for these reasons- easier for a new driver to drive, smaller project to complete, better gas milage (?), and plenty of room for one or two people. Please let me know if any of my arguments for a short bus are false-after looking at all the cool builds here, the 3/4 buses are looking awfully appealing too!
I have found a couple short busses to bid on in our home state of Kentucky- would love any input y'all have on them.
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...76&acctid=3933
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2101408
I've been reading so much already on the forums and I have to say I think I may be bitten by the bus bug- has anyone built out two busses at once? (One for him and his young-adult travels, and one for the rest of us in the family?!)
We own a bagel and coffee shop in central Kentucky, any folks heading through on I-75, look us up for free breakfast in exchange for a bus tour! 
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Your first listed says unknown engine condition and electrical issues. I would pass on that. The second one looks like it's in better shape but mentions rust. I'd look closely at that. If you're completely stripping it down it can most likely be repaired.
The second one is diesel which most people prefer.
This one is also worth checking out:
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...62&acctid=3597
It says Activity Bus so that most likely means it's geared for highway driving.
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05-30-2018, 01:48 PM
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#5
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,131
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagelBus
Hello! My 16 year old son Julian has dreamed about converting a school bus for years. When I was his age my dad and I restored a 1966 Mustang that we bought for $600, and I'm excited to do a similar deep-dive into this project with him. He originally wanted a full-size bus, but I've really encouraged him to consider a short bus for these reasons- easier for a new driver to drive, smaller project to complete, better gas milage (?), and plenty of room for one or two people. Please let me know if any of my arguments for a short bus are false-after looking at all the cool builds here, the 3/4 buses are looking awfully appealing too!
I have found a couple short busses to bid on in our home state of Kentucky- would love any input y'all have on them.
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?f...76&acctid=3933
https://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/au...ew?auc=2101408
I've been reading so much already on the forums and I have to say I think I may be bitten by the bus bug- has anyone built out two busses at once? (One for him and his young-adult travels, and one for the rest of us in the family?!)
We own a bagel and coffee shop in central Kentucky, any folks heading through on I-75, look us up for free breakfast in exchange for a bus tour! 
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welcome!!! and im a computer Geek / Coffee shop Enthusiast!! (I drink espresso and write code in coffee shops daily) i also happen to run through I-75 LOTS!! my busses arent converted as im more a "bus-geek" than the camping type. but would Love to stop, have a bagel and a cup of coffee.. both of my busses are shorties and when i show up you are more than welcome to take a spin to see what driving a bus is all about.. im also a former Hot-rodder. . never built a stang. but spent many hours on rainy nights turnin wrenches in the garage!!
-Christopher
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05-30-2018, 09:18 PM
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#6
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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We are new bus owners!
Thanks everyone for the welcome and replies! So fun to see the projects that y'all have going on!
I really appreciate all the thoughtful input. The bus is gonna be something that a new driver is going to be driving, so while I'd really like a "bigger" shortie for myself, I think the tiny one will be decent for him for now. I really am viewing this as our "starter" project.
I don't know how to reply to individuals on one post (need to review the FAQ's but wanted to reply before I head to bed), but I called and talked to the folks selling it and it turns out it's the headlights that don't work and the AC works intermittently that's the electrical issue. My dad is my "technical advisor" (he knows how to work on cars...) and gave us the go ahead.
So- we bought a bus! Won the auction tonight- gotta figure out how to post photos. My goal was to spend less than $1000, and we bid $1111 as our final bid, so while it probably wasn't a steal, I think it's a decent start. Looking forward to learning and sharing here!
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05-30-2018, 09:25 PM
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#7
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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I think I figured it out...
It's an awfully "before" before photo!
Also BTW cadillackid our shop is Native Bagel Company in Berea, KY please do stop by anytime!
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05-30-2018, 10:56 PM
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#8
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: N.C.
Posts: 1,136
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Engine: DT466E
Rated Cap: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagelBus
The bus is gonna be something that a new driver is going to be driving, so while I'd really like a "bigger" shortie for myself, I think the tiny one will be decent for him for now.
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I think that's a pretty smart move on your part. As a brand-new driver with a learning curve, he's better off in a small van-type than a full-sized chassis shorty.
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05-31-2018, 06:52 AM
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#9
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,131
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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thats a GREAT bus!!! the drivetrain in it is just like a normal ole chevy van..probably a 350 V8. which parts are all over for, turbo 400 or 4L60 transmission.. easy stuff..
A/C is easy on those to work on too.. just like a regular Car A/C. great choice for a bus for someone who spent time working on cars, even though its GMC (I know you are a ford girl),.. just go buy some metric wrenches.. (darn GM)..
then go get some dual exhausts, a Big Cam, and wide wheels under the rear wells 
-Christopher
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05-31-2018, 06:23 PM
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#10
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 17
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: 7.3 DT444E
Rated Cap: 71
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I have the same bus!! It's been highly reliable and incredibly easy to find parts for and work on. The downside is the fuel economy, but that's not the end of the world with cheaper gas prices we've had lately. Mine has 268,000 miles and is still every bit as trustworthy as when I bought it. Have fun with your build!!
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05-31-2018, 06:37 PM
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#11
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fayetteville Arkansas
Posts: 419
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: GMC G3500 Vandura
Engine: V-8 5.7L Gas
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Yeah I purchased pretty much the same bus last year it's just a 91 GMC. The reliability, cheap parts, and any mechanic anywhere being able to work on it were my deciding factors. There's a small number of us that prefer gas. Welcome you guys.
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05-31-2018, 07:21 PM
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#12
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Cool, thanks for the kind words all! I think we will go pick it up early next week. Right now I'm diving into the small bus build threads- inspiring stuff!
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06-08-2018, 06:26 AM
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#13
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Bus is here!
My husband, brother-in-law, and son drove 2 1/2 hours south and picked up the bus yesterday! It started right up and they drove it home. Runs great, needed brake fluid and air in tires, that's it. Delighted to see that interior panels are screwed in place- can't wait to get to work on it.  Will post photos after we close the bagel shop today. We are so excited to embark on this project!
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06-08-2018, 08:50 AM
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#14
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,032
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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You should look carefully at the brake system, it's a closed loop so if it was low on fluid it came out from somewhere!
Looking forward to photos and details!
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06-08-2018, 06:00 PM
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#15
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Yes, thanks brokedown, thats' definitely on the list. After spending some time under the bus today it also looks like a new muffler and tail pipe is in order! I'm posting a photo here of the bus before we did any work, figured I'd start a build thread for all our work photos.
*I'm having a heck of a time uploading photos, am usually pretty savvy online- followed the Photobucket instructions in the how-to thread, only to see that they are no longer allowed. When I uploaded to the site, creating a new photo album, they are all turned sideways and I can't figure out how to fix that- I've looked around for a current tutorial for how to do this but can't fine one- any links or tips?*
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06-08-2018, 06:50 PM
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#16
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagelBus
Yes, thanks brokedown, thats' definitely on the list. After spending some time under the bus today it also looks like a new muffler and tail pipe is in order! I'm posting a photo here of the bus before we did any work, figured I'd start a build thread for all our work photos.
*I'm having a heck of a time uploading photos, am usually pretty savvy online- followed the Photobucket instructions in the how-to thread, only to see that they are no longer allowed. When I uploaded to the site, creating a new photo album, they are all turned sideways and I can't figure out how to fix that- I've looked around for a current tutorial for how to do this but can't fine one- any links or tips?*
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It's not you, the site is posting a lot of pics sideways.
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06-08-2018, 07:05 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Pendleton Indiana
Posts: 348
Year: 2010
Coachwork: IC
Engine: MF DT466
Rated Cap: 81
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Looks like a cool little project. There are sizes for everyone. I think the small ones are great you can build a great one without breaking the bank. Like 01marc said alot of pics are loading sideways and I dont think the site will load photobucket pics. I couldn't get it to a while back. Keep us posted with a build thread.
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06-08-2018, 07:25 PM
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#18
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Alright, thanks guys that makes me feel better at least about my abilities on the computer!
Here is the work crew today, showing our progress- all seats out, side panels on their way out, and floor coming up- a good amount of work for our first afternoon!
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06-08-2018, 07:28 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,032
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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If you use the Tapatalk app on your phone, it makes it easy to add photos.
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06-08-2018, 07:38 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 15
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevy G30
Engine: 5.7L
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Ok cool, I will download that app, I really prefer my laptop for this kind of forum so I can see all the photos and type faster, but I appreciate the tip, thank you!
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