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12-16-2019, 05:27 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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New member in Nashville!
How y’all doing!? My name is dan, my wife and I just purchased our second bus.
It is a 2004 IC 72 passenger. It has a dt466e and Allison 2000. Planning on a toy hauler/ motorhome conversion
We are looking for a local person to assist in removing the road speed governor, and maybe bump the horsepower a tad.
Any suggestions?
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12-16-2019, 06:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Local to where, Montana, or Tennessee?
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12-16-2019, 06:23 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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I’m currently in Nashville Tennessee. Headed back to Montana next spring
So I would need assistance with the bus in Nashville area
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12-16-2019, 06:42 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I may be travelling to Houston first of the year or near (still up in the air).. if so I'll go through nashville.. I have the magic computer to remove governors and pump up the jam a bit..
what is youre current maximum speed and your RPMs when you hit that speed?
-Christopher
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12-16-2019, 06:49 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I may be travelling to Houston first of the year or near (still up in the air).. if so I'll go through nashville.. I have the magic computer to remove governors and pump up the jam a bit..
what is youre current maximum speed and your RPMs when you hit that speed?
-Christopher
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That’s awesome! Max speed is 63 or so at 2000 rpm
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12-16-2019, 06:50 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Chris, did you and your magic computer have anything to do with The Who's Magic Bus?
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12-16-2019, 06:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Chris, did you and your magic computer have anything to do with The Who's Magic Bus?
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LOL i dont think there were any computers on that bus!!
th the OP - yeppers you got plenty of room to accept a higher speed limiter and some extra ponies.. what is your engine rated now? (there will be a sticker on the valve cover with a cut-out showing the actual HP rating and other boxes show you the availables in that family...
-Christopher
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12-16-2019, 06:58 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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I’m unsure of the horse power, I’ve only owned it a few hours. It’s a great bus so far, a helluva lot nicer than the caterpillar powered Thomas it’s replacing
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12-16-2019, 07:08 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
LOL i dont think there were any computers on that bus!!
th the OP - yeppers you got plenty of room to accept a higher speed limiter and some extra ponies.. what is your engine rated now? (there will be a sticker on the valve cover with a cut-out showing the actual HP rating and other boxes show you the availables in that family...
-Christopher
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I thought maybe with your dash we could go back to the future.
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12-16-2019, 07:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawlerdan
I’m unsure of the horse power, I’ve only owned it a few hours. It’s a great bus so far, a helluva lot nicer than the caterpillar powered Thomas it’s replacing
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Should be a label on the valve cover showing HP/TQ ratings
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12-16-2019, 07:26 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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Looks like she’s a 210/520tq version
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12-16-2019, 07:36 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawlerdan
Looks like she’s a 210/520tq version
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Same as mine.
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12-16-2019, 08:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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210 is the top end of the Low torque version.. I cant turn the compuiter up any higher with predictable results.. if it was my bus id probably crank it up higher but I watch it like a hawk..
the hardware in the HO versions is different.. so without it being mine to break I dont like the idea of punching it out to 230 or 250
-Christopher
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12-16-2019, 08:03 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Nashville/Montana
Posts: 14
Year: 2004
Coachwork: Ic
Chassis: No idea man
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: Tons 0’ kids
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That’s fine, I’d be happy doing 70mph
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12-16-2019, 08:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
I thought maybe with your dash we could go back to the future.
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we probably can esp now that im actively building the Glass-cockpit. control panel for all my heat A/C , etc
-Christopher
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12-16-2019, 08:13 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
210 is the top end of the Low torque version.. I cant turn the compuiter up any higher with predictable results.. if it was my bus id probably crank it up higher but I watch it like a hawk..
the hardware in the HO versions is different.. so without it being mine to break I dont like the idea of punching it out to 230 or 250
-Christopher
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With my bus capable of 90+mph as is in 5th, I see no need to bump the power, which would probably hurt MPG's.
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12-16-2019, 10:28 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawlerdan
I’m unsure of the horse power, I’ve only owned it a few hours. It’s a great bus so far, a helluva lot nicer than the caterpillar powered Thomas it’s replacing
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Funny- I like my cat way better than the 04 Dt466E powered bus I had. We did the opposite of each other and have the opposite results lol.
Make sure you keep you coolant 100% perfect. Its the most crucial bit of maintenance on that engine aside from making sure the oil level stays full.
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12-16-2019, 10:35 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
210 is the top end of the Low torque version.. I cant turn the compuiter up any higher with predictable results.. if it was my bus id probably crank it up higher but I watch it like a hawk..
the hardware in the HO versions is different.. so without it being mine to break I dont like the idea of punching it out to 230 or 250
-Christopher
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I'm fairly sure there's a 230hp standard torque version.
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12-17-2019, 08:27 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I'll have to look at my books but you may be right there might be a 230 stabdard torque indeed, I'll pull it up when im on my other laptop and look..
-Christopher
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12-17-2019, 11:47 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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There are six versions of the International DT466 engine as of 2010. The 210-horsepower engine produces peak horsepower at 2,300 rpm and 520 pound-feet of torque at 1,400 rpm. The 220-horsepower engine produces 540 pound-feet of torque; the 225-horsepower version produces 560 pound-feet of torque; one 245-horsepower version produces 620 pound-feet of torque and the higher-end 245-horsepower version produces 660 pound-feet of torque. The highest powered DT466 engine produces 260 horsepower and 800 pound-feet of torque. All horsepower peaks listed are at 2,300 rpm and torque peaks at 1,400 rpm. The International DT466 delivers 220 horsepower and 540 pound-feet of torque in the 2004 CXT pickup.
I realize this may not cover the earlier ones.
Good to know the good rep of this motor, 90% of them still run at 300k, and the B50 cycle is at 450K
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