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01-23-2018, 10:22 PM
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#21
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennysTire
I quoted someone else who said it may be a Duramax... But disagree. The 6.5 was before the Duramax. Made by Detroit, not Isuzu... Regardless, yes... Maintenance is key. Problem is when you buy used you have no clue on maintenance even if you have paperwork.
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http://soderholmbus.com/collins/pdfs/superbantam.pdf
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01-23-2018, 10:29 PM
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#22
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
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Hate to break it to you, but the gen-1 Duramax (LB7) wasn't until after Y2K and was a 6.6 not a 6.5...
That brochure is not of a 1995 Collins
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01-23-2018, 11:02 PM
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#23
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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Note the other engine options on that brochure:
Ford 6.0 Diesel (introduced 2003)
Chevy 6.0 Gas (introduced 2002)
Note the years Detroit Diesel V8 was offered:
http://bfy.tw/GD8E
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01-24-2018, 01:10 AM
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#24
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 25
Coachwork: Collins Super Bantam
Engine: 6.5L Diesel
Rated Cap: 20 passenger
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Gents, some good points here:
1. Maintenance is key - I was betting on the fact that since it transported student/kids that it will be properly maintained. There's also an inspection certificate approval from Department of Highway Patrol dated 3/16/15 at 345,251 miles ago but still don't know what they did (as Benny pointed out) which means I should give it a full tune up to get a baseline.
2. Great to hear stories of engines going 400k miles and still hauling.
3. Motivating to see a Suburban conversion and gives me an idea that it can be done, but expensive.
I'll take pictures of the bus (engine/tranny) tomorrow and post it here to maybe shed some light.
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01-25-2018, 07:47 PM
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#25
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 25
Coachwork: Collins Super Bantam
Engine: 6.5L Diesel
Rated Cap: 20 passenger
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Here she is with a happy camper.
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01-25-2018, 07:47 PM
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#26
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,804
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnymdnyt
Here she is with a happy camper.
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Gotta love CA buses. Even a classic like that is CLEAN out there!
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01-25-2018, 08:01 PM
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#27
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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It's a beauty!!!
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01-25-2018, 10:12 PM
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#28
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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congrats on the bus!!! now all the fun stuff begins!
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01-25-2018, 10:39 PM
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#29
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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The rear sits pretty nicely! Looks like the bus never saw a full load of students in it's 23 years!
I'd swap the spindles for 4" dropped, put 2" blocks on the rear axle, and a nice set of 235/85R16 all terrains.
A 40 series Flowmaster I think makes the 6.5 sound a little "tougher" (it's such a rattler)
I wouldn't try to pull any extra power out of that motor. It really only needs to breathe a little better and stay COOL and it'll go a long way. Looks like it has AC, so it should have the clutch fan that engages more frequently than not. I see a lot of 6.5 busses that have what amounts to a constant-engagement fan and then a snap-on grille cover for winter.
Even I'm getting excited thinking about what you can do with that bus! [emoji57]
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01-26-2018, 10:15 PM
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#30
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 25
Coachwork: Collins Super Bantam
Engine: 6.5L Diesel
Rated Cap: 20 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennysTire
The rear sits pretty nicely! Looks like the bus never saw a full load of students in it's 23 years!
I'd swap the spindles for 4" dropped, put 2" blocks on the rear axle, and a nice set of 235/85R16 all terrains.
A 40 series Flowmaster I think makes the 6.5 sound a little "tougher" (it's such a rattler)
I wouldn't try to pull any extra power out of that motor. It really only needs to breathe a little better and stay COOL and it'll go a long way. Looks like it has AC, so it should have the clutch fan that engages more frequently than not. I see a lot of 6.5 busses that have what amounts to a constant-engagement fan and then a snap-on grille cover for winter.
Even I'm getting excited thinking about what you can do with that bus! [emoji57]
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Exactly what I was looking for in terms of advice.
Thanks!
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01-26-2018, 10:20 PM
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#31
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Allenstown NH
Posts: 205
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC-1000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 39 Students
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnymdnyt
Exactly what I was looking for in terms of advice.
Thanks!
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Hit me up when you're ready for rubber. I can steer you the right way. (Pun intended)
I can help you pick the tires that will do what you want them to do [emoji106]
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01-27-2018, 01:15 AM
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#32
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 819
Year: 1993
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: DT360
Rated Cap: 66
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If it hasn't been done... replace the harmonic balancer right off the bat.
The older 6.5 likes to break cranks and 99% of the time, it can be linked back to a worn out harmonic balancer. I consider it a required maintenance item and if there is no record of it being replaced, no matter what it looks like, I'd replace it.
If you've got the coin, I'd go for a Fluidampr over the standard steel balancer. They aren't cheap... but it's good insurance.
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01-29-2018, 03:13 PM
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#33
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 25
Coachwork: Collins Super Bantam
Engine: 6.5L Diesel
Rated Cap: 20 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennysTire
Hit me up when you're ready for rubber. I can steer you the right way. (Pun intended)
I can help you pick the tires that will do what you want them to do [emoji106]
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I am excited as well to work on it but I am currently out of town at the moment. Will definitely hit you up when I get tires. Thank you.
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01-29-2018, 03:16 PM
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#34
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 25
Coachwork: Collins Super Bantam
Engine: 6.5L Diesel
Rated Cap: 20 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr4btTahoe
If it hasn't been done... replace the harmonic balancer right off the bat.
The older 6.5 likes to break cranks and 99% of the time, it can be linked back to a worn out harmonic balancer. I consider it a required maintenance item and if there is no record of it being replaced, no matter what it looks like, I'd replace it.
If you've got the coin, I'd go for a Fluidampr over the standard steel balancer. They aren't cheap... but it's good insurance.
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You are right on the money on this one. I've tried to locate the service records from the PO and previous company that owned it to no avail. Best to assume the worse, and it will be a learning experience since I have a feeling this will not be my last school bus.
Thank you.
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