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07-20-2015, 10:38 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 226
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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What did i just get myself into?
Ok,
Been lurking around this site for a while and finally pulled the trigger on a bus auction and won.
Montgomery County Public Schools: 2001 Thomas MVP ER, bus has 55K miles showing on the odometer.
My fiance and I are super excited to finally have a bus!
Will be doing the conversion in our driveway all but one neighbor has has said awesome (we do not know about the other, hopefully they are cool about it)
My first question: How the heck do I get it to my house as i live in NJ which is around 150-200 miles away?
Anyhow thanks for the motivation to finally do this, was just a passing though 5 years ago.
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07-20-2015, 10:48 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ism minerals
Ok,
Been lurking around this site for a while and finally pulled the trigger on a bus auction and won.
Montgomery County Public Schools: 2001 Thomas MVP ER, bus has 55K miles showing on the odometer.
My fiance and I are super excited to finally have a bus!
Will be doing the conversion in our driveway all but one neighbor has has said awesome (we do not know about the other, hopefully they are cool about it)
My first question: How the heck do I get it to my house as i live in NJ which is around 150-200 miles away?
Anyhow thanks for the motivation to finally do this, was just a passing though 5 years ago.
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congrats!
it's all good till you wake up one morning and see this on side of bus
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I once complained I had no shoes....
Until I met a man with no feet
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07-20-2015, 11:14 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,798
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ism minerals
Ok,
Been lurking around this site for a while and finally pulled the trigger on a bus auction and won.
Montgomery County Public Schools: 2001 Thomas MVP ER, bus has 55K miles showing on the odometer.
My fiance and I are super excited to finally have a bus!
Will be doing the conversion in our driveway all but one neighbor has has said awesome (we do not know about the other, hopefully they are cool about it)
My first question: How the heck do I get it to my house as i live in NJ which is around 150-200 miles away?
Anyhow thanks for the motivation to finally do this, was just a passing though 5 years ago.
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You get it home by driving it!
lol welcome
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07-20-2015, 11:15 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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I had a note that said "The hood doesn't care for your bus." Another douche let the air out of two tires on another car.
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07-20-2015, 12:19 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Tomball, TX
Posts: 313
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ism minerals
My first question: How the heck do I get it to my house as i live in NJ which is around 150-200 miles away?
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Drive it. I picked up my bus from a town in another state. It was almost 300 miles away, so me/my wife/my father-in-law drove close to 600 miles and spent a saturday picking up our bus.
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07-20-2015, 01:05 PM
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#6
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 226
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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I have to figure the insurance thing out and i am in NJ, oh what fun. i would love to drive it home, but do i need a CDL. The police are very strict here
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07-20-2015, 02:14 PM
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#7
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,798
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Please don't take this hard, I mean no offense-
But why not figure all of this out before buying one?
Try getting ahold of Scooter, he's in NJ.
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07-20-2015, 02:50 PM
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#8
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 226
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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EastcoastCB,
I just have to figure out the insurance part, Have a buddy with a CDL to drive it. Sometimes you have to jump right in and figure the details out later. T
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07-20-2015, 02:55 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,450
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison AT1545
Rated Cap: 2
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check with your insurance agent. here in colorado, your car insurance extends a binder on a new vehicle, 1-2 weeks from the date on the bill of sale.
if you already have auto insurance, you probably just need a legal bill of sale to drive it home.
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07-20-2015, 03:00 PM
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#10
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,798
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Sorry, its just that I got really upside down with my first bus doing that.
Lots of folks lurk on here and it seems now folks are converting school buses all over the place, which is a good thing. In the interest of anyone reading along I incur all interested in bus buying to iron out all the details first as it can really be tough to deal with down the road.
Not trying to be a butt head or anything...
Hell even with LOTS of planning I still drove my current bus 800 miles home with no tag!
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07-20-2015, 03:05 PM
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#11
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Please don't take this hard, I mean no offense-
But why not figure all of this out before buying one?
Try getting ahold of Scooter, he's in NJ.
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Where's the fun in that?
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07-20-2015, 05:03 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Just drive it. I brought mine down from Maine sans CDL. As long as you: - Drive Defensive
- Drive Carefully
- Keep to the Right
- Remember that it swings wide turning
- Don't attract the attention of the Cops
- DRIVE DEFENSIVELY
You'll be fine; it'll also allow you to get familiar with driving a bus; particularly a 40 footer. If you do have a friend with a CDL, have him do the ride along inside, this way if you do get pulled over, he can explain that he's doing "driver training".
Things to also remember- New Jersey is special about insurance; most companies that insure skoolies don't in New Jersey. You may have to talk to a commercial insurance provider.
The things that the Special Vehicles Unit will be looking for are:
[*]Remove most seats from the bus
In order for the bus to be converted to an RV, the customer must make the following modifications to the vehicle: - Remove emergency lights including the side mounted stop sign
- Repaint the exterior of the vehicle (Cannot remain any shade of yellow)
- Install a permanent bed or sleep sofa
- Install a permanent sink or bar sink (Must be in working order)
- Install a permanent stove or microwave
As well as (when flipping the title from bus to RV):
• Color photographs
o Exterior photos must completely/clearly show all 4 sides of the vehicle. of the interior and exterior after the conversion.
o Interior photos must completely/ show the bed, stove/microwave and sink.
• Pencil tracing or photograph clearly showing the complete VIN plate
• Certified weight slip for the converted motor vehicle.
And, welcome to the insanity.
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07-20-2015, 05:05 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Shoot me a pm with your email, and I'll forward you what MVC sent me last summer
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07-20-2015, 05:46 PM
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#14
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 226
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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I think i got it figured out to get it home, Progressive may insure it as a bus with seats intact under a commerical policy under my business name. I do not know if i will then need a CDL, but i will have my buddy (CDL holder with me) in case of trouble ( thanks for the advise on trianing). Does anyone know if i would need to stop at the highway weigh station in MD or DE on my way home?
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07-20-2015, 06:21 PM
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#15
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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get in there and "drive it like you stole it"
edit:
On second thought.... I looked up your particular bus.
There definately is a learning curve with steering... you're in front of the turning wheels! (You're actually hanging out there in an intersection before the wheels get in the intersection)
something like this.
might wanna find an empty parking lot to practice a little bit, it used to feel weird to me when my feet are almost the most forward thing while turning.
VW vans always freaked me out, and I'd be pulling my feet back
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I once complained I had no shoes....
Until I met a man with no feet
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07-22-2015, 07:33 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: michigan
Posts: 29
Year: 98
Chassis: TC 2000 RE
Engine: 8.3 cummins mechanical
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1. Calll your state and see if they have a 10 day transit tag ( or something similar) if not put big piece of paper in back window saying in transit
2. Insurance- if you don't have State Farm it is time to look. We have Stae Farm and I think we pay like 300/year for insurance ( liability only- they will insure for replacement but have through a bunch of hoops.
3. Make sure belts and brakes are ok before you leave
We drove from Oregon to Michigan with NO PLATES- just in transit in back window- was still school bus yellow.
Hope this helps
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David
Bus dad of 3 and husband of 1 ( wife that is )
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07-22-2015, 05:44 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milkmania
On second thought.... I looked up your particular bus.
There definately is a learning curve with steering... you're in front of the turning wheels! (You're actually hanging out there in an intersection before the wheels get in the intersection)
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What learning curve? I was driving a GSA flatnose with 5 minutes of instrumentation familiarity. Just remember that you *are* in front of the wheels, stop when you (the driver) are in line with the pole if you're first. And remember to make *wide* right turns. I forgot about that, and took out the stop sign *and* light pole at the apartment complex I was living at last year, prior to moving it to its new home.
If they won't let you have the tag, have a couple of "IN TRANSIT" signs made up, ready to go. I drove mine back from Maine with the Wisconsin Apportioned Tags (that were on it when driven to Maine from NL)
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07-23-2015, 07:04 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 226
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: MVP ER
Engine: Cat 3126b 210 HP 605 ftlbs
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Got insurance commercial, hopefully I can get a temp in transit plates in MD DMV, and we have a driver who has a CDL. It seems we have to stop at the weigh stations in MD and probably DE as we will be taking I95. Measured my driveway and i think the bus will fit by a foot or two, otherwise we may have someone with a field to store/work on it for a low cost. Scooter thanks for the help!
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07-23-2015, 07:22 AM
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#19
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,798
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Awesome.
I have never been to MD but in a yellow school bus there shouldnt be any real need to stop for weigh stations or ag inspection.
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07-23-2015, 10:33 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I'm guessing the most common "first-timer" error piloting a 40 footer is keeping up with the overhang in the rear. A typical 40' BB has about 12' hanging out behind the tires and during a 90* turn, that makes for quite a bit of swing.
As noted,if you can find a parking lot, ten minutes of practice, including backing up and parallel parking will give you a little more comfort/advantage.
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