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06-22-2018, 03:27 PM
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Will this pull
Anyone know about a 1999 d444e shuttle bus? 26-30 passenger
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06-22-2018, 03:49 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Andrews,Indiana
Posts: 2,393
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: AARE
Engine: 3116 Cat 250hp
Rated Cap: Just the two of us.
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What is your question? Your post is too vague.
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06-22-2018, 05:20 PM
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Wanted to know if it'll pull a trailer with a load very well? He only knew what engine it had and that he drove it at 65mph but didn't know how many rpm ! Its a two hour drive for me to go test drive it so I've been looking online for two days with no real info on that subject
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06-22-2018, 05:47 PM
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New Member
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Here's a picture
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06-22-2018, 06:14 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Figure the average weight of a full passenger load, 30 @ 167= 5010lbs. What are you towing?
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06-22-2018, 06:23 PM
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An 18 ft trailer loaded
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06-22-2018, 06:29 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogati88
An 18 ft trailer loaded
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Loaded with what, pillows? Keep in mind what weighs 5k lbs sitting there, doesn't weigh the same once it's moving.
I pulled a 2k lb race car on an 20' tandem trailer with my F-150 half ton p/u.
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06-22-2018, 06:32 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Ashtabula, Ohio
Posts: 1,494
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444E 7.3L
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I suspect you could tow with that regardless.
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06-22-2018, 06:36 PM
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It'd be loaded with freezers and cooking equipment( fryers, table's, stuff for a food stand
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06-22-2018, 06:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Good tires on your trailer and good brakes if it has them, and drive like a human and I'd tow just about anything you can fit onto that trailer. As long as the tongue weight/hitch class is proper and you keep a safe distance when driving I would have no concerns.
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06-22-2018, 06:59 PM
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My fear is going up hills so slow its dangerous lol I read that if the rps is @ 2600 at 65 mph its bad for it so I guess I'll just have to take the trip up there and test drive it to see! I hope its at 2000
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06-22-2018, 07:25 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
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Year: 1999
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Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogati88
My fear is going up hills so slow its dangerous lol I read that if the rps is @ 2600 at 65 mph its bad for it so I guess I'll just have to take the trip up there and test drive it to see! I hope its at 2000
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Go to the UserCP and fill out your profile so we know where you are. What hills are you talking about? When we talk hills, we really mean Rocky Mountains.
When you start to go slow up the hills, pull into the right hand lane and put on your flashers and you'll be fine.
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06-22-2018, 07:38 PM
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Just random hills in Mn, and, and Wisconsin
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06-22-2018, 07:55 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Central MN
Posts: 191
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC RE
Engine: 8.3L
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As marc01 said , proper hitch weight and class as well as preferably two axles with brakes for stability.
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06-22-2018, 09:33 PM
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Bus Crazy
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Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Year: 2000
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If you have an AT545, you will need a BIG transmission cooler, other than that, you will just go up the hills slow
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07-03-2018, 02:08 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Winlcok, WA
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Quick answer, no.
In order to tow anything that heavy is going to require some modifications to the cooling system and perhaps an upgrade to the pump and injectors.
Some of the hot rod pieces used by the Ford 7.3L crowd can be used on the IHC T444(E). But in most cases you won't be able to use the extra HP because you won't have enough cooling capacity.
If the transmission is an AT540 it definitely isn't going to have enough cooling capacity.
You also have to understand that with that power package it is going to be a slug going uphills towing a heavy trailer. Going downhill is going to eat up a lot of brake lining and other braking components. Without some sort of auxiliary braking system the AT540 is pretty weak when it comes to holding back on a downgrade. With a trailer of that size some sort of trailer brake is required which can help a little but it will mean using a lot of service brake to keep you speed down.
If the bus and trailer is used as support vehicles for a catering/party business you will run the real risk of being required to have a current USDOT number and CDL drivers. The weight cops are getting really persnickety these days. I sometimes wonder how much is safety related and how much is revenue generation.
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