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Old 09-14-2020, 07:54 PM   #1
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Are split washers good enough? No loctite.

So I added loctite to all of the bolts I used to attach my bigfoot levelers.
Then it occurred to me that I had misjudged the placement of the loctite on the threads.
There for I believe that many of the nuts didn't touch the loctite at all.
We do however have lock/split washers on every nut.
I thought about taking them all off, or atleast what will come off and adding loctite.
The problem is that it was a complete mother to get them on in the first place because you have to be a damn contortionist just to get in there and I put my last bit of effort into every one of 24 bolts. 8 more to go.
I was hoping that someone could ease my mind a bit and say that it should be all good.
And maybe I just visit this bolts every so often to make sure they're all still snug.
Yes, kind of a funny facepalm, but stuff happens,😊
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Old 09-14-2020, 08:50 PM   #2
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should be fine...maybe double check a few after they've been exposed to the vibrations of a road trip. Also, unless they are stainless, a little surface rust will insure that they stay nice anf tight.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:14 PM   #3
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Thanks a bunch.
Maybe I'll be able to get some sleep tonight. ��
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:29 AM   #4
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If you tighten them to the correct torque spec with a torque wrench they should be fine.

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Old 09-15-2020, 08:53 AM   #5
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Check them for tightness periodically, but they'll likely be fine. Loctite says you only need a drop inside the nut. So seeing how most people coat the whole thread on a bolt, I'd say you have enough on there. And then add the split washer too and I wouldn't worry.
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:50 AM   #6
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Split washers are generally ineffective as a nut locking method with steel-to-steel applications.
https://engineerdog.com/2015/01/11/1...out-fasteners/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEngineer...shers_useless/
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However, as long as the nuts are correctly torqued (https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...ed-Torque.aspx) I wouldn't be concerned about having split washer or thread locker. As mentioned, corrosion will lock them over time
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:02 AM   #7
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Thank you everyone.
Not an A+ rating, but I'm feeling much better now.
I really appreciate all of your feedback.
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Old 09-17-2020, 09:15 PM   #8
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If you want to add loctite,without disassembly (but still have access to the threads) look into loctite green. It is a wicking formula meant for "preassembled fasteners".
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Old 09-17-2020, 09:24 PM   #9
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loctite green.
Sounds interesting.
Thank you very much.
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Old 09-18-2020, 07:36 AM   #10
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It's loctite 290 for the wicking compound.

Loctite doesn't go off colors, only permatex does. With loctite, you have to use the numbers because they make several different versions that will be the same color. For instance loctite 620 is green and we use it in the shop to hold injector cups in cylinder heads.
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Quote:
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It's loctite 290 for the wicking compound.

Loctite doesn't go off colors, only permatex does. With loctite, you have to use the numbers because they make several different versions that will be the same color. For instance loctite 620 is green and we use it in the shop to hold injector cups in cylinder heads.
Not true, the colors are easy distinguishers.
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:23 PM   #12
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Not true, the colors are easy distinguishers.
Did you even read my post?

No? I figured.......

If anyone reads this and wants to actually know what they're talking about, loctite makes more glues, sealers, threadlockers, liquid metals and retaining compounds then you would ever care to know that they make. Many more varieties then colors in a standard color wheel, so to go in a store and say that you need green loctite might get you a variety of different things.

For instance, I have 3 loctite products that are green on the shelf, none of them are the self wicking thread locker.

However, if you specify that you need loctite 290, you'll get the self-wicking threadlocker that you're looking for.
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Old 09-19-2020, 09:56 AM   #13
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Good info Booyah45828!
Thank you very much for the clarification.
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Old 09-20-2020, 09:36 AM   #14
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It's loctite 290 for the wicking compound.

Loctite doesn't go off colors, only permatex does. With loctite, you have to use the numbers because they make several different versions that will be the same color. For instance loctite 620 is green and we use it in the shop to hold injector cups in cylinder heads.
I learned something new today.

I have always heard it referred to as "green" and that has just been reinforced by the limited selection of loctite at places I have shopped for it means I haven't been made aware the other greens.
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Self locking nuts

You should used self locking plastic back nuts there is no need for any locking washer or Loctite
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