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04-26-2021, 10:36 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Best Options for Family of 4? What vehicle would you recommend?
I've always had my heart set on a Short School Bus, but I'm looking now at some mid size busses as well. Those of you with experience what vehicle would you recommend for a family of 4 with young children? I'd like to mostly use if for traveling, but eventually spend a year living on the bus. We don't want anything too big and are willing to sacrifice space for a smaller vehicle if it can fit our needs.
Are there other vehicles that can travel all over and fit a family of 4 that you'd recommend? My biggest things I want are a bathroom, kitchen, couches that also can be beds, and a serving window somewhere on the bus. We cook a lot of meals and when we travel places with beautiful outdoor views I'd like a serving window (similar to a food truck) to be able to give people food for meals when possible.
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04-26-2021, 01:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Too small happens more often that too large.
Start drawing up everything you think you would need in it.
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04-26-2021, 01:31 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the road
Posts: 348
Year: 2013
Chassis: IC RE
Engine: HT570 / 3500SP
Rated Cap: 4
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Family of 4, traveling and living full time is our bus. 40ft pusher, just the right size for us.
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04-26-2021, 04:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Freedom Field, New Mexico
Posts: 459
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtrans
Engine: 444E
Rated Cap: 84 pas
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Ruth and I have been living in box trucks and busses for the last several years. Its just two of us and a pit bull. The motivation to go from the 16 foot box truck to 29' bus was space. The motivation to go to 40' pusher was space. The motivation to start thinking about some tip outs or slides......space. Imagine that.
You might be thinking, "Oh man, 40' is huge. How will I drive that without running over pedestrians?" It's really not hard with a little practice to maneuver even in crowded parking lots at Walmart. Out here in the West you see little old retired ladies driving the 40 footers hauling school children.
Think about ample storage space for your family and the stuff you will need and want on the road. Then there are sleeping arrangements, cooking and dinning area... you get the drift. If you go too small it will really put a cramp on your leisure.
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04-27-2021, 07:45 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock-N-Ruth
Ruth and I have been living in box trucks and busses for the last several years. Its just two of us and a pit bull. The motivation to go from the 16 foot box truck to 29' bus was space. The motivation to go to 40' pusher was space. The motivation to start thinking about some tip outs or slides......space. Imagine that.
You might be thinking, "Oh man, 40' is huge. How will I drive that without running over pedestrians?" It's really not hard with a little practice to maneuver even in crowded parking lots at Walmart. Out here in the West you see little old retired ladies driving the 40 footers hauling school children.
Think about ample storage space for your family and the stuff you will need and want on the road. Then there are sleeping arrangements, cooking and dinning area... you get the drift. If you go too small it will really put a cramp on your leisure.
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Thank you that's helpful to know. Currently, I don't have my own land to park a bus so size matters for that also. We were considering renting space at a storage place to park and build out our bus. Also, we didn't want to overwhelm ourselves all at once. I may start considering the mid-sized buses now more though. 24'-28'.
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04-27-2021, 08:57 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,325
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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Here is my rule of thumb: 1 person 10 foot. 2 people 20 foot. 3 people 30 foot. 4 people 40 foot. 5 people somebody gets left behind.
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04-27-2021, 09:36 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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LOL! Even if they're little people?
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04-27-2021, 09:42 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Especially!
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04-27-2021, 09:50 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,325
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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And if you don’t build in some privacy you may not get to 5.
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04-27-2021, 11:26 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Freedom Field, New Mexico
Posts: 459
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtrans
Engine: 444E
Rated Cap: 84 pas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buslivesmatter
Thank you that's helpful to know. Currently, I don't have my own land to park a bus so size matters for that also. We were considering renting space at a storage place to park and build out our bus. Also, we didn't want to overwhelm ourselves all at once. I may start considering the mid-sized buses now more though. 24'-28'.
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I don't know where you are located but I recently started a boondocking and building program on my 40 acres in southwest New Mexico. Our first builder was a noobie and stayed three months raising his roof. We really enjoyed the experiance an have opened our place to any who want a place to build and skoolie community. I have a post about it here: https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/b...ico-34881.html
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04-27-2021, 11:29 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Freedom Field, New Mexico
Posts: 459
Year: 1998
Coachwork: International
Chassis: Amtrans
Engine: 444E
Rated Cap: 84 pas
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You could go short and then tow a small travel trailer for extra private living space when things get too crowded.
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04-27-2021, 12:18 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock-N-Ruth
I don't know where you are located but I recently started a boondocking and building program on my 40 acres in southwest New Mexico. Our first builder was a noobie and stayed three months raising his roof. We really enjoyed the experiance an have opened our place to any who want a place to build and skoolie community. I have a post about it here: https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f13/b...ico-34881.html
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This is awesome. Unfortunately, I'm all the way on the east coast and I dont even think we have places like this. Everyone I've seen has been in the southwestern states and texas.
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04-27-2021, 12:23 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,325
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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DMV is that DC-Maryland-Virginia?
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04-27-2021, 12:34 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the road
Posts: 348
Year: 2013
Chassis: IC RE
Engine: HT570 / 3500SP
Rated Cap: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buslivesmatter
Thank you that's helpful to know. Currently, I don't have my own land to park a bus so size matters for that also. We were considering renting space at a storage place to park and build out our bus. Also, we didn't want to overwhelm ourselves all at once. I may start considering the mid-sized buses now more though. 24'-28'.
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If you plan to live in it fulltime, you'll have to really think about a floorplan fitting your needs. We are all different, but I don't think it would be fun for the 4 of us to live in a smaller space. Our 40 ft is just the right size. We don't have to switch the configuration for day use / night use, allowing some of us to sleep sooner or later. We are working remotely, so a proper desk is mandatory, and other 3 people still have room to live. 24-28' seems small. But once again, your needs could be different than ours! My advice is not necessarily to go with a bigger bus, but be sure the smaller size will be livable and enjoyable. Once you'll have bought the bus and started the building process, adding floor area would be difficult ...
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04-27-2021, 02:21 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 994
Year: 1999
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In the short term, you can make anything work. Our family of 7 spent most summers in a suburban towing a 16ft trailer around the country. Once teenagers, it was not good.
My advice, is forget about a 40ft bus, you will regret it. Get a van or truck and tow a trailer. If you move often, get a big truck and a fifth wheel trailer. Your kids will be safe in the truck with airbags and seat belts, and you can explore without bring the trailer everywhere you go.
Here in sac, there is a big fifth wheel trailer for $1000 that needs lots of work, but even that will be less work than building a 40ft bus into a motorhome.
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04-27-2021, 02:29 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the road
Posts: 348
Year: 2013
Chassis: IC RE
Engine: HT570 / 3500SP
Rated Cap: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
In the short term, you can make anything work. Our family of 7 spent most summers in a suburban towing a 16ft trailer around the country. Once teenagers, it was not good.
My advice, is forget about a 40ft bus, you will regret it. Get a van or truck and tow a trailer. If you move often, get a big truck and a fifth wheel trailer. Your kids will be safe in the truck with airbags and seat belts, and you can explore without bring the trailer everywhere you go.
Here in sac, there is a big fifth wheel trailer for $1000 that needs lots of work, but even that will be less work than building a 40ft bus into a motorhome.
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Not the same thing. At all. Being on the road into a car towing a trailer is totally different than traveling in a bus, for the driver as well as for the passenger.
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04-27-2021, 02:47 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s2mikon
DMV is that DC-Maryland-Virginia?
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Yes it is!
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04-27-2021, 02:49 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABBus
Not the same thing. At all. Being on the road into a car towing a trailer is totally different than traveling in a bus, for the driver as well as for the passenger.
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How difficult was it for you/spouse to learn driving a 40' bus? I have driven some 15ish passenger busses for church a few times, but a 40' bus is very intimidating to me. I don't doubt I can learn, but with CDL/school bus classes being several thousand dollars, I am not sure how I can get some practice
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04-27-2021, 02:52 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABBus
If you plan to live in it fulltime, you'll have to really think about a floorplan fitting your needs. We are all different, but I don't think it would be fun for the 4 of us to live in a smaller space. Our 40 ft is just the right size. We don't have to switch the configuration for day use / night use, allowing some of us to sleep sooner or later. We are working remotely, so a proper desk is mandatory, and other 3 people still have room to live. 24-28' seems small. But once again, your needs could be different than ours! My advice is not necessarily to go with a bigger bus, but be sure the smaller size will be livable and enjoyable. Once you'll have bought the bus and started the building process, adding floor area would be difficult ...
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Thank you. I will consider that. I think we will go with midsized for now and expand if necessary as the kids grow.
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04-27-2021, 02:57 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: DMV Area
Posts: 151
Year: 2006
Coachwork: Cheverolet
Chassis: 3500 Express
Engine: 6.0L V8 Gas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeNimble
In the short term, you can make anything work. Our family of 7 spent most summers in a suburban towing a 16ft trailer around the country. Once teenagers, it was not good.
My advice, is forget about a 40ft bus, you will regret it. Get a van or truck and tow a trailer. If you move often, get a big truck and a fifth wheel trailer. Your kids will be safe in the truck with airbags and seat belts, and you can explore without bring the trailer everywhere you go.
Here in sac, there is a big fifth wheel trailer for $1000 that needs lots of work, but even that will be less work than building a 40ft bus into a motorhome.
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We are considering a trailer but that's more for business purposes. At the moment it costs less up front for us to buy a bus and renovate us because we don't have a vehicle with the towing capacity to pull the 8.5 x16 ft trailer that we like.
We have a minivan and a 2006 Honda CRV. We'd like to get a pickup truck, but we don't know which ones are good and they seem very high priced even for older ones.
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